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re: Why is Massie in the Republican Party?

Posted on 1/1/26 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 6:09 pm to
He can’t win as a Democrat in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. He runs as a Republican and then votes like a Democrat.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9173 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 6:14 pm to
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He can’t win as a Democrat in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. He runs as a Republican and then votes like a Democrat.


He has won EIGHT elections for that seat. You think his fooled his constituents all those times?
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1939 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 6:19 pm to
Yes, it happens all the time.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9173 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 6:25 pm to
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Yes, it happens all the time.


Or...just maybe...hear me out, he votes with Republicans over 92% of the time, and his constituents like the way he votes.

Again, hate on Massie all you want, but for "voting like a Democrat" is illogical.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1908 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 6:38 pm to
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Or...just maybe...hear me out, he votes with Republicans over 92% of the time, and his constituents like the way he votes.


So did MTG and iirc 98% of republicans vote in favor of trumps policies.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9173 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
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So did MTG and iirc 98% of republicans vote in favor of trumps policies.


The lie was that "Massie votes like a Democrat, but fools his constituents." Massie doesn't vote like a Democrat.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57299 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:33 pm to
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The lie was that "Massie votes like a Democrat, but fools his constituents." Massie doesn't vote like a Democrat.


Like when he voted with the Dems to raise the debt ceiling under Obama?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9173 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Like when he voted with the Dems to raise the debt ceiling under Obama?


OK. That's one vote several years ago. You agree that he's been fooling his constituents in all their subsequent votes to return Massie to Congress???

Here's what ChatGPT says:

Here’s what the **record shows about how Rep. Thomas Massie voted on key debt-ceiling increases during Barack Obama’s presidency and related proposals:
?? 2011 Debt Ceiling / Budget Control Act
The Budget Control Act of 2011 was the major law that resolved the 2011 debt-ceiling crisis by allowing an increase in the debt limit tied to spending cuts and caps. It passed the House on August 1, 2011 (269–161) and was signed by President Obama. ?
Wikipedia
Massie opposed debt limit increases across his early time in Congress, consistently voting “no” on standalone debt increases and related measures during the 2011 crisis (e.g., he opposed the Full Faith and Credit Act/stealth debt limit increase in 2013). ?
massie.house.gov
While the exact roll-call vote for Massie on the Budget Control Act of 2011 isn’t in the readily available public summaries, his long-standing principle at that time was to vote against debt increases absent substantial fiscal reforms. Public statements from Massie’s office confirm his opposition to efforts to raise the debt ceiling around that period. ?
massie.house.gov
Bottom line:
?? Massie did not support the 2011 debt ceiling increase as part of the Budget Control Act; he opposed debt increases at that time. ?
massie.house.gov
?? 2013–2014 Debt Ceiling Actions (Temporary Debt Limit Extension)
In February 2014, the House passed the Temporary Debt Limit Extension Act (a “clean” suspension of the debt ceiling) by 221–201. ?
Wikipedia
Only a small minority of Republicans supported this extension (28 Republicans yea). ?
Wikipedia
Massie opposed these types of debt ceiling extensions around this period — for example, he voted “no” on the Full Faith and Credit Act in 2013 because he viewed it as a debt limit increase. ?
massie.house.gov
Bottom line:
?? Massie voted against clean debt ceiling extensions in the 2013–2014 period. ?
massie.house.gov
?? Exception — 2023 Debt Ceiling Under Biden (Fiscal Responsibility Act)
In 2023, during a debt ceiling fight under President Joe Biden, Massie did vote in favor of proceeding with the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023 (the bipartisan debt ceiling suspension) at key procedural stages, including supporting the rules that advanced the bill and ultimately voting yes on the measure. ?
Spokesman-Review +1
This was widely noted as the first time Massie had ever voted to raise or suspend the debt ceiling in his congressional career, and he personally described it as a pragmatic vote to avoid a default while securing some procedural changes. ?
Spokesman-Review
?? Summary of Massie’s Votes on Debt Ceiling Increases
Period / Measure
How Massie Voted
2011 Budget Control Act (debt limit increase)
Opposed / No
2013–2014 Temporary Debt Limit Extension (clean increase)
Opposed / No
2023 Fiscal Responsibility Act (debt ceiling suspension)
Supported / Yes (first such vote)
So in all the major Obama-era debt ceiling increases (2011 and 2014), Massie voted against the increases. His only recorded vote in favor of raising or suspending the debt ceiling in his congressional tenure occurred later, in 2023, under a different president, when he supported a negotiated bipartisan deal. ?
Spokesman-Review +1


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154879 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:48 pm to
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He runs as a Republican and then votes like a Democrat.


Zero shame telling this lie.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17005 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:48 pm to
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Like when he voted with the Dems to raise the debt ceiling under Obama?


The bill passed the House with strong bipartisan support, 314 to 117.

A majority of both parties voted for the legislation:

165 Democrats voted in favor.
149 Republicans voted in favor.
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
794 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:52 pm to
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So if you don’t support Trump do you support Kamala? That’s your logic here.


Do you prefer being the top or the bottom in a homosexual marriage

Thats your logic here
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154879 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:55 pm to
Ooof
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 7:58 pm to
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He can’t win as a Democrat in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. He runs as a Republican and then votes like a Democrat.
How much have you had to drink today? Hopefully a lot. If you think Massie votes like a Democrat, you're definately impared.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:00 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9173 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:00 pm to
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165 Democrats voted in favor.
149 Republicans voted in favor.


This is what makes the Massie haters so dishonest. Again, knock yourself out in hating Massie for other reasons, but don't lie about whether or not Massie is a fiscal conservative....or at least accuse the other 148 as "not being Republicans" because of that one vote.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:05 pm to
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The bill passed the House with strong bipartisan support, 314 to 117.

A majority of both parties voted for the legislation:

165 Democrats voted in favor.
149 Republicans voted in favor.
Clearly it's Massie's fault!

The myth that somehow all of Obama and Bidens spending was due to Massie voting for them is testimate to the power of cult herd thinking.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94157 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:05 pm to
Massholes have excuses for everything

Just like Ronbots
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:07 pm to
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Massholes have excuses for everything
Why hasn't Trump cut spending, the defict, nor the debt?
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 8:08 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:08 pm to
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all of Obama and Bidens spending was due to Massie voting for them

Has anyone actually said that, as you’ve clearly stated it right there? I have a hard time believing that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298111 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Massholes have excuses for everything

Just like Ronbots


Like clockwork.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:09 pm to
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Has anyone actually said that, as you’ve clearly stated it right there? I have a hard time believing that.
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No he isn't. Massie voted for 4.7 trillion in debt.
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