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re: Why is ‘limited range’ for EV’s presented as ‘range anxiety’?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:01 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:01 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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My small charger on 120 volts takes many and too many hours to charge my vehicle. It is reasonable overnight at 220 volts. It is going to take a major mindset shift to get a lot of people driving EVs over here. It is in part because democrats tried to shove it down our throats by 2035. So it is political.
Couldn't agree more, and your experience is a perfect example IMO.
The technology is improving and currently works if you have the right use-case.
If you need to use your primary vehicle for extended travel, it simply won't yet.
They've should've never pushed it out as a one-for-one replacement until the technology was there and the infrastructure was available.
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:01 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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You either fill it up or charge it up. Everybody has to do it. A Ford F 150 Powerboost Hybrid is the best of both worlds and has a great range.
Sure. The "anxiety" with EVs is the lack of charging infrastructure
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:04 am to jnethe1
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I don’t think it’s some made up phrase to scare people off of EV’s. It is just a description of what happens with people who own/drive EV’s.
Of course
Which is why it's absurd of OP to think it's some phrase concocted by the EV industry or EV proponents
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:04 am to Powerman
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Sure. The "anxiety" with EVs is the lack of charging infrastructure
I think it is doable up and down the Interstate system. If one wants to drive from Columbus, Georgia to Savannah across the south part of the state? No.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:08 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Somebody will have to stop every 275 miles to electrify their EV. A good friend says he simply could not stand spending 30 minutes to charge an EV. Anyway, if we charge at Bucee's it would be fun.
Nothing is more exciting for parents on a road trip than having to stop with young kids every 3 hours and have to kill 30 minutes at a gas station waiting for your EV to recharge
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:11 am to Tiger Prawn
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Nothing is more exciting for parents on a road trip than having to stop with young kids every 3 hours and have to kill 30 minutes at a gas station waiting for your EV to recharge
In the long run it won't be a deal breaker. There will be people in the US in 100 or 200 years who will change a vehicle in a station sourced from nuclear power. Oil and gas will be a minor component of our energy profile. It won't last forever. Hell the US could be here in 500 years.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:19 am to aTmTexas Dillo
I don’t have to worry about it with my long range, Tesla. You just don’t need to be an idiot. If I’m going on a longer trip, I make sure that I plan things out.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:22 am to NashvilleTider
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I don’t have to worry about it with my long range, Tesla.
I enjoy my Lightning so much I'd buy another EV. How much range does that Tesla have?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:22 am to aTmTexas Dillo
The US is not Norway.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:33 am to bluedragon
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The US is not Norway.
Ah, yes. So?
It is just interesting to see a country that has adopted EVs in large numbers. I was surprised by it given Norway is a large producer of oil and gas and hence can fully supply their transportation needs. They also have many trains running across the country both passenger and freight. All are electric as far as I can tell. It will come here at some point. Perhaps its will be after you die. I'm not making any political statements here. I have an EV and ICE vehicle.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:35 am to Powerman
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Which is why it's absurd of OP to think it's some phrase concocted by the EV industry or EV proponents
The phrase came from automotive journalists. No one is going to willingly associate anxiety with their product offering.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:48 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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I have an EV and ICE vehicle.
I used to have an EV and would buy one again. It was actually great getting around town and back to forth to work for about $17 a month. I used to get pissed when I'd have to take the truck to get gas
. Then my driving requirements changed significantly with having to drive back and forth across NC regularly and I let the EV lease run out and didn't buy another because the time and financial balance wasn't favorable anymore. There are a few things that are holding the EV market back here; some are real, some are misconceptions. The first is political where they were going to mandate them and take choices away; serious mistake. Second is the early EVs were awful with range and were a massive compromise that folks haven't let go of. Third is tying them to environmentalism; they are not good for the environment, really in any way. Fourth is weight; they are very heavy vehicles that many of them are not great to drive. Hopefully the coming battery tech, graphene or one of the others can help solve this. Once these things can get the battery weight down, the efficiency levels are going to be wild.
EVs can be a great value if your use profile fits well with where they excel. If your use profile doesn't fit that, there are going to be a somewhat problematic vehicle to own, like any other vehicle that doesn't suit your needs.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:55 am to Powerman
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Do you think proponents of EVs are the ones that came up with the term "range anxiety" lol
Sort of. It was likely coined by some marketing folks working for an EV company or lobby in an attempt to downplay a legitimate weakness of EVs for use in the US.
Years ago someone (Musk, maybe?) demonstrated a system which would have swapped batteries for fully charged ones in about a minute and a half, it just needed the industry to move to standard placement and size. Instead, we still need 15-30 minutes for it.
Along with that, ranges begin to drop when the weather drops to 40 degrees and drops more the lower below that the temperature goes (being somewhere around 20%-30% at 32 degrees).
Another added wrinkle is when the destinations you are staying (home in rural area, apartment, etc) do not have chargers there.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:56 am to jnethe1
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It is just a description of what happens with people who own/drive EV’s.
Because of the known limited range of electric vehicles.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:57 am to Powerman
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But that has nothing to do with the phrase "range anxiety"
Absolutely it does.
They chose words they thought would resonate with the maximum number of people and "anxiety" won out.
And they were probably right about it being the best word to use.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:57 am to Powerman
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Do you think proponents of EVs are the ones that came up with the term "range anxiety" lol
100% I do
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:00 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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We are not there yet.
Hopefully we never get there.
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The Norwegians feel guilty
Brainwashed white Europeans.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:01 pm to RolltidePA
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The phrase came from automotive journalists.
Who want to be invited to product launches, receive ad revenue, and curry favor.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:02 pm to weagle1999
Because being personally responsible for yourself is a privilege?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:02 pm to Powerman
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Sure. The "anxiety" with EVs is the lack of charging infrastructure
And the amount of added time to a trip due the time it takes to charge.
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