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re: Why is India not a StarTrek utopia if they have millions of the worlds most brilliant engi
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:26 am to LSUGrad2024
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:26 am to LSUGrad2024
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Those were NOT pajeets from India. Those were Germans.
are you saying there are no capable and intelligent Indians?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:28 am to boomtown143
They are too busy trying to scam elderly Americans by posing as software employees.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:29 am to goldennugget
The problem really starts in two places at the top you have American college kid demanding 100k out of school which is insane, then from the bottom you have Indian here willing to work that job for 40k and then you go to India and you can get 5 Indians or more for 40k of salary.
All for a job that might be 75k without experience.
American refuses to take 60k or whatever is offered, then gets labeled lazy.
Company hires 5 Indians overseas and pays someone here to manage them.
The consumer gets fricked because product is low quality.
It’s a two pronged problem, college has told too many kids they are worth more than they really are and then the 3rd world can depress wages.
It’s unrealistic to tell the American take the 40k job is too low. I’ve seen people be like work for free to get on show then you are valuable and I think that is dumb and insulting. The same person saying that would not do that.
You stop the 3rd world depressing of wages and the wages become ones that people can at least accept.
My own issue with the depression of wages by the third world is 1 selfish as they can then depress all wage brackets much easier so that messes up my goals. 2 the unselfish side is we are killing our own damn industries chasing cheap labor instead of growing good internal talent. It was always a bullshite response of well this will allow us to move the young talent up, which is stupid because you are taking away the things that make your talent better to send over sees and it hurts the quality which erodes client trust. We see it happen with 3rd world workers with the Indians being the face and it’s also happening every time we let private equity into a industry they fricking destroy it with the same bullshite.
All for a job that might be 75k without experience.
American refuses to take 60k or whatever is offered, then gets labeled lazy.
Company hires 5 Indians overseas and pays someone here to manage them.
The consumer gets fricked because product is low quality.
It’s a two pronged problem, college has told too many kids they are worth more than they really are and then the 3rd world can depress wages.
It’s unrealistic to tell the American take the 40k job is too low. I’ve seen people be like work for free to get on show then you are valuable and I think that is dumb and insulting. The same person saying that would not do that.
You stop the 3rd world depressing of wages and the wages become ones that people can at least accept.
My own issue with the depression of wages by the third world is 1 selfish as they can then depress all wage brackets much easier so that messes up my goals. 2 the unselfish side is we are killing our own damn industries chasing cheap labor instead of growing good internal talent. It was always a bullshite response of well this will allow us to move the young talent up, which is stupid because you are taking away the things that make your talent better to send over sees and it hurts the quality which erodes client trust. We see it happen with 3rd world workers with the Indians being the face and it’s also happening every time we let private equity into a industry they fricking destroy it with the same bullshite.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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are you saying there are no capable and intelligent Indians?
None so far.
Only 3 Indians have won a Nobel that wasn't literature or Peace.
Of immigrants in America who have gone on to win the Nobel....well why don't you just take a look:
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Americans are lazy as frick
So are some Indians. But Americans come with rights in the labor economy that foreign labor does not. That’s the difference that makes foreign labor attractive, not this bullshite “Americans have a monopoly on lazy” line that corporate America loves to sell!
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:32 am to LSUGrad2024
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Only 3 Indians have won a Nobel that wasn't literature or Peace.
Oh dear god...
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:33 am to AUCom96
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So are some Indians
I'd trade every white progressive we have for people who work
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:33 am to boomtown143
This whole thread is a microcosm of hate for others. Truly Sad.
Not one of you has mentioned the space program of India.
Not one of you has mentioned the space program of India.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:34 am to Big4SALTbro
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People blame white guys for creating fraternity type work cultures but they absolutely ignore that any minority that starts to hire will always hire those that look like them. White men are probably the most likely to ignore race and gender and hire who they believe to be the best.
I ran a large engineering company for over a decade, and this has been my experience as well. If we put a Colombian in charge of an engineering group we ended with a group made up of at least half Colombians - in Houston! An Indian manager? Indians. Hire an American male? You’ll get a diverse group.
Oh, and the answer to the OP is that India suffers a brain drain, as most of their best come to America or go to the UK. And this is why some Americans think Indians are super smart; the ones they meet ARE smart, but they are the ones with the wherewithall to leave.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:36 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:35 am to boomtown143
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Why is India not a Star Trek utopia if they have millions of the world’s most brilliant engineers, computer programmers, and scientists?
it's a completely luciferian culture. they literally worship luciferian demons that are named in their hindu religion.
i'm this, i'm that, me, me, me. we aren't to far removed from that and america is a perfect breeding ground for their religion, whether they follow it through actual practice or through the luciferian demons that control them. once a person, a people, a culture gives themselves over to sin, there's only repentance to be free of it. the demons are in control otherwise.
if you know any indians, they treat each other like complete crap if they feel justified because the "lower" person deserves it. hindu is the temu version of "build a better man". very self-righteous bunch, it's like a nation of redneck/"trash done good" people.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:36 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:36 am to themunch
Or it’s a microcosm of some people living in theory land, some people that have been in the belly of the beast, and others that have been there but find a different outcome because it benefits them in some way.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:37 am to Irish Knuckles
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it's a completely luciferian culture. they literally worship luciferian demons that are named in their hindu religion.
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Tulsi Gabbard, First Hindu In Congress, Uses Bhagavad Gita At Swearing-In
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No. Generalities are certainly not all encompassing. But generally the Indian educational system and culture is different. It leads to a different approach to problem solving. Again, neither inherently good nor bad, but those differences in our system can be counterproductive.
are you saying there are no capable and intelligent Indians?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:37 am to NC_Tigah
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But generally the Indian educational system and culture is different.
It may be, but I'm not overly impressed with ours either.
Our destruction is internal, not external. Its white progressives.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:39 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:40 am to boomtown143
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Why is India not a Star Trek utopia if they have millions of the world’s most brilliant engineers, computer programmers, and scientists?
Because even when they're speaking "English" to you over the phone from the customer service call center, it still sounds like they're speaking Klingon.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
Ours was fine until the department of education and no child left behind.
Since those things have come into play it’s gone to shite.
We also have a problem of telling everyone to go to school. So then we have schools starting to graduate anyone and everyone because it’s money.
Our school problem then gets worse as we add in out of touch and do nothing parents. In some areas school is just a day care.
Since those things have come into play it’s gone to shite.
We also have a problem of telling everyone to go to school. So then we have schools starting to graduate anyone and everyone because it’s money.
Our school problem then gets worse as we add in out of touch and do nothing parents. In some areas school is just a day care.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Tulsi Gabbard, First Hindu In Congress, Uses Bhagavad Gita At Swearing-In
yup, she's a vile pos. completely sold-out to child sacrifice. hindu's are their own gods at the end of the day, much like the majority of our own population.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Nor am I. Our evolution from intellectual curiosity, questioning, and focused problem solving toward rote and consensus is a problem.
It may be, but I'm not overly impressed with ours either.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
You aren’t wrong with white progressives destroying us. We do plenty of internal damage, the Indians are really bullets being fired from a gun we are holding.
We have destroyed ourselves on many fronts, we don’t manufacture key things like we use to and we saw the covid problem happen. We have destroyed our education system and we have bought and paid for politicians rather it be China or Israel.
We have destroyed ourselves on many fronts, we don’t manufacture key things like we use to and we saw the covid problem happen. We have destroyed our education system and we have bought and paid for politicians rather it be China or Israel.
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