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re: Why is Hollywood still hiding pedo symbols in plain sight?
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm apparently not allowed to critique pedo cult mythology
I guess that makes them the true Cabal with power then, eh?
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The symbol is either there or it's not. That's not what we are talking about. I'm glad we agree that context gives a symbol meaning.
for the people "seeing" symbols in this thread
So, besides the FBI report that you have objections to recognizing as a legitimate source, what context might we apply to the same 'spiral triangle'? You've got some nerds on a web forum where people talk about it. That's some context. You've got videos on the internet talking about it. You've got news broadcasters showing the symbols and talking about it. They all seem to be saying the same thing.
In short, if it didn't mean pedophilia or 'boy love' before then it certainly does now -- as in today -- as in right now.
Do you disagree?
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm apparently not allowed to critique pedo cult mythology
Have at it brother
No objections here
I think discussions are good FWIW
I would love to be wrong about all of this stuff
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:35 pm to crazy4lsu
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There is still no functional reason for the use of symbols as a means of communication through mass media.
Right. That's basically why people are surprised when they see it.
Psychologically maybe a good hypothesis of that desire is the same desire humans have by communicating with each other with something in common. It's probably that simple.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:39 pm to RoyalWe
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So, besides the FBI report that you have objections to recognizing as a legitimate source
i'm not discussing it's legitimacy, just it's possible accuracy
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what context might we apply to the same 'spiral triangle'?
which spiral triangle? the one in OP or the one in the FBI bulletin?
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In short, if it didn't mean pedophilia or 'boy love' before then it certainly does now -- as in today -- as in right now.
Do you disagree?
yes
because the logical extension of that argument is that by participating in this thread, you've spread it too and are infected
ergo, you are a pedo
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:40 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:I disagree. Why would a taboo person/organization use symbols? Because frick me -- that's why. Why are there dick castles on video boxes of The Little Mermaid? Because some evil fricker said 'frick them, I'm putting dicks out there.'
There is still no functional reason for the use of symbols as a means of communication through mass media.
BTW, you're also ignoring the argument which could be made to provide an underground way of attempting to associate with like-minded people. "Hey, that guy John has that spiral triangle necklace. I think I'll hint around what kind of porn he likes when I talk to him again." Next thing you know they're ordering a cheese pizza together for an hour.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:42 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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I would love to be wrong about all of this stuff
i'm not against the idea of pedophilia being part of some secret societies
just the public displays of symbolism. i don't believe that
or most of the other alleged, public occult symbolism
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ergo, you are a pedo
I guess I should declare victory a second time with this zinger.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:43 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Sagan felt it represented the outgasing of comet viewed from Earth...
What Sagan felt it was and what it actually represented in the multiple cultures that used it are two entirely different things.
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The Nazis were known to seek out occult knowledge.
There was absolutely nothing occult about the decision of the Nazis (and Hitler specifically) to use the symbol. Hilter himself outlines his decision in Mein Kampf. Not only that, the swastika, or specifically, the Hakenkreuz was used in German Nationalist movements from the fin de siecle onward. That it is a specific reference to "Aryan" mythology is a matter of some debate, as are the occult aspects. But it is difficult to argue with Hitler's own direct statements about the choice.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:44 pm to RoyalWe
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BTW, you're also ignoring the argument which could be made to provide an underground way of attempting to associate with like-minded people. "Hey, that guy John has that spiral triangle necklace. I think I'll hint around what kind of porn he likes when I talk to him again." Next thing you know they're ordering a cheese pizza together for an hour.
The blue pillers won't believe this but they will believe the gay hankerchief code.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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There was absolutely nothing occult about the decision of the Nazis (and Hitler specifically) to use the symbol. Hilter himself outlines his decision in Mein Kampf. Not only that, the swastika, or specifically, the Hakenkreuz was used in German Nationalist movements from the fin de siecle onward. That it is a specific reference to "Aryan" mythology is a matter of some debate, as are the occult aspects. But it is difficult to argue with Hitler's own direct statements about the choice.
Occult lore is steeped with dual meanings. One for the profane and the other for adepts. Just like some politicians have a professional vs private persona...
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:50 pm to RoyalWe
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I guess I should declare victory a second time with this zinger.
you're the person who created the "if it spreads, it infects reality" angle. we can call it the Tulpa-spread theory
how does that not extend to this thread?
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:53 pm to RoyalWe
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Why would a taboo person/organization use symbols? Because frick me -- that's why.
But symbols in history are used in very specific ways. Jung has one of the best definitions, where he says "Every psychological expression is a symbol if we assume that it states or signifies something more and other than itself which eludes our present knowledge." We are bringing, always, our specific context to a symbol. People here are insisting, without any shadow of a doubt, that the symbols represented on a FBI bulletin (which hasn't been proven to be from the FBI itself) are in fact symbols for what they say these symbols represent.
If symbols are important, then symbols have meaning. How are we to know that you, or even a group of you, understand the exact nature of a symbol, except your own insistence upon that understanding? Suggesting that this group of shadowy figures would feel the need to firstly reveal themselves, and then use these symbols as a method of communication is nonsensical. There is absolutely no need for such a group to do such a thing. If, again, symbols have meaning, then the context they are in is contingent; what I mean here is that in no culture, no anthropology, do we find evidence of symbols used for their own sake. That sort of sensualism is almost surely a modern invention. But the use here is invoking an earlier form, where the need for the use of the symbol is assumed.
So to suggest that they are doing it for no reason adds to the nonsense. To suggest that they are doing it for communicative purposes is equally ridiculous, especially through the replication effect of mass media, where symbols, by the very nature of the medium itself, become meaningless.
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BTW, you're also ignoring the argument which could be made to provide an underground way of attempting to associate with like-minded people.
Do you understand what a symbol would need in order for it to carry that function?
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:54 pm to GumboPot
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The blue pillers won't believe this but they will believe the gay hankerchief code.
the difference is communication between the participants, which, again, doesn't apply here
this is broadcasting more than communication with another
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:56 pm to GumboPot
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The blue pillers won't believe this but they will believe the gay hankerchief code.
I'm well aware of the code, but here the symbols are used for their direct purpose. They have a setting, a person, and a place. What is the use of these codes in a Dora the Explorer poster? That obviates the specific need of the symbol, which is to communicate secretly for the purpose of showing that they belong to the same group. That purpose is obliterated when the symbol is propagated through a mass medium.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:58 pm to crazy4lsu
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What is the use of these codes in a Dora the Explorer poster? That obviates the specific need of the symbol, which is to communicate secretly for the purpose of showing that they belong to the same group. That purpose is obliterated when the symbol is propagated through a mass medium.
yeah throwing out symbols for another participant to come tap you on the toe is one thing
this poster nonsense is just yelling I WANT TO frick KIDS! to the mass audience. that kind of broadcasting is completely irrational, and the scale involved here makes it almost beyond any comprehension
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:59 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Occult lore is steeped with dual meanings. One for the profane and the other for adepts. Just like some politicians have a professional vs private persona...
Except Hitler, in Mein Kampf, literally tells you with his own words why he chose the symbols and colors of the Nazi flag. The occult readings, in this regard, are far more spurious in the face of the direct evidence, because we only have speculations for the occult, with many of them sourced from French writers who played up the supernatural angle in the 1930s for the specific effect of explaining Germany's resurgence. That the Hakenkreuz has a history related to German Nationalist groups, from which the Nazis directly sprang, is somehow ignored in the face of this invisible evidence.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this poster nonsense is just yelling I WANT TO frick KIDS! to the mass audience. that kind of broadcasting is completely irrational, and the scale involved here makes it almost beyond any comprehension
It beggars belief that any organization would operate this way.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Okay, now I just think you're retarded.
there isn't one in your's, either
It's not a list of Q thread-approved symbols. It's the fricking FBI's list of officially recognized symbols. I'm no Q-dawg, but I at least recognize that numerous high-profile pedos have been arrested in recent years. I think the most shocking one was the bust in Norway.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:06 pm to blueboy
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It's the fricking FBI's list of officially recognized symbols.
Is there a link to an official FBI statement acknowledging this? Reverse image searching lead me to absolutely nothing definitive.
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