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re: Why is being proud of the USA bad?

Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by WhyMan
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2016
1576 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Are you proud to live in America or not?


Answer this one simple question.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157760 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Baw: (acts like an a-hole while waving US flag) 

Person: You’re being an a-hole. 

Baw: Why is the flag bad?!?!? 



Your strawwoman is showing.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9011 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:25 pm to
Cause leftist liberal Media keeps telling us it is.. That's why...

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:25 pm to
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don't understand some of these people that care about what Europe thinks of us. 


This is ironic. Many on here keep pressing how much better it would be to have European immigrants instead of the Hispanic ones. Yet many Europeans dont like our culture and our medical system in particular.

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Why the hate for the flag? Why the hate for our service people? 



I dont hate either. Which people are you referring to.

You are referring to the traditional American flag, yes?

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America is the best country in the world, every one knows it, but if you even show a little patriotic spirit you are labeled a white nationalist. 


What is " a little patriotic spirit". Nobody cares if you have a barbeque, fireworks, sing the anthem, etc.

What particular cicumstance are you referring to?

I dont have to say Mexico is terrible, Saudi Arabia is bad, or China is dumb.
Im proud to be an American because as you stated, its a great country. If you need to put down others to make yourself feel good, its shows low confidence.


quote:


I mean why in the hell some want to live here and change the best formula for a country in history? 


The American formula has ALWAYS changed over time. We arent even pure capitalist

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I just can't wrap my head around how socialism is a winning outcome for us as a country.



Its a disgruntled lower middle, lower, and poor classes.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:31 pm to
It isn't.

Ignore or verbally abuse halfwits who say it is.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:38 pm to
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By any measure. Name one better, you leftist scum. 


The only thing the United States leads the world in is military power and fat people.

By every other metric, there is a country better than the US at something. The US is greater than the sum of its parts.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:43 pm to
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Europe is a leech, using shitty, traitorous politicians to fleece the American taxpayer to subsidize their bitch lifestyles. They are no ally. 


This issue with Europe is that they have different values than us. Yes, they have a weaker military, but that wont change even if the US pulled out everything.

At best, they will keep a military force strong enough to patrol their borders. You only need a US sized military if you need first strike capabilities.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:45 pm to
Interesting thoughts by Orwell.

It's familiar.
This post was edited on 8/2/19 at 6:46 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:47 pm to
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The only thing the United States leads the world in is military power and fat people.


Triggers you, doesn’t it? The US has a higher GDP than the entire EU, didn’t we just learn that earlier? So which country produces more?

Which country is more charitable than the US?

Which country provides safety and security for more of the world?

Which country shares it prosperity through LEGAL immigration more than the US?

Which country produces more innovation and invention than the US?

If you actually believe what you said, you are either ignorant, or just more leftist trash.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:54 pm to
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This issue with Europe is that they have different values than us. Yes, they have a weaker military, but that wont change even if the US pulled out everything.


The issue with Europe having different values than us, is that we allow them that luxury, by paying their way through this world. I could have a fine ski boat, and support a whole lot of homeless folks, if my neighbor was paying my mortgage.

I don’t care if they want to defend their countries or it’s interests at all. Let them live or die by their stupid socialist decisions, especially since they love feigning superiority, and having simps like you act like it’s a fact.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299315 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:55 pm to
Progressive fricking hate everything to do with the USA and its past because they're soft and Whiny

We are still the economic superpower, leader in high tech.

But because of shite that happened before any of these millennial ducks were born, they're ashamed of the country.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:57 pm to
Isn’t pride a sin? Leads to the greatest evils?
Posted by WhyMan
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2016
1576 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:26 pm to
C'mon man, I'm not talking about the scriptures. I don't go to church you can't pull that on me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299315 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

Yet many Europeans dont like our culture


What?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:19 pm to
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But because of shite that happened before any of these millennial ducks were born, they're ashamed of the country. 


We still have people alice today who were around during the Civil Rights Era.

You can chose to ignore it, but the events of the past set trends in motion that effect the present.

And notice how i never said being patrotic was bad? I just said i dont have an impulse to put down other countries.

Lets put it another way, as bad as you think those Western Europeans are, they have enough people that vote to maintain medicare for all style programs and other state sponsored programs for their country.

Its "equivalent exchange" in the big picture. Yes, the US is a tech and economic powerhouse, but mostly because our priorities arent on the healthcare of our citizens. It is on maintaining global control.

Nothing wrong with that to some people. But we all need to acknowledge that being a superpower has a cost.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299315 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

quote:

But because of shite that happened before any of these millennial ducks were born, they're ashamed of the country.


We still have people alice today who were around during the Civil Rights Era.

You can chose to ignore it, but the events of the past set trends in motion that effect the present.



About 15% of the population is over 65. About 12% of those are black.
A quasi religious mythology has developed among younger people who treat Marxist sociology theories as scripture.

Posted by Captain Nintendo
Member since Jul 2019
13 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:35 pm to
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Just a few of Orwell's thoughts on nationalist scum


You are one smug dumbfrick.

Being proud of the USA isn't a catch all definition of being a nationalist. Identifying with your own nationality doesn't make you "scum". Neither of those things also assume the country is perfect nor overlooks its frick ups.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:35 pm to
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Its "equivalent exchange" in the big picture. Yes, the US is a tech and economic powerhouse, but mostly because our priorities arent on the healthcare of our citizens. It is on maintaining global control.


No our priority is to maintain the freedom and independence to not allow the force of government to compel us to pay for other people’s healthcare. To not have our government wield the power over it’s citizens to force things like making a couple watch their child die, when they have the means and opportunity to possibly prevent it. It’s only shitheads like yourself who think the priority is to control the world.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13973 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:40 pm to
There has been a sea change somewhere along the way. Ronald Reagan restored pride in the country. We were the best and kicked everyone’s butt around. When he left office, pride started to wane a little. Clinton and Obama wanted to tear the country down to ensure electability through people being dependent on the state.

We need to restore the swagger. Do away with opreme numero dose and Spanish signs in Home Depot.



America is the best so much so there is no second and if you don’t love it leave it.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20114 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 9:04 pm to
Lichtenstein > America
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