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Why I Still Don't Think Trump Will Be Impeached
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:25 pm
PJ Media
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Just a few days ago, I predicted that Trump won't be impeached. Of course, today we saw the announcement that Nancy Pelosi has directed the Judiciary Committee to start drafting Articles of Impeachment based on the hearing yesterday.
Now, that means a committee chaired by Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-Moria) is supposed to start coming up with a list of charges. Apparently, this is supposed to include bribery, abuse of power, and damned if conspiracy and collusion with the Russians isn't back, Mueller investigation be damned.
You might think this would cause me to rethink my prediction, but it doesn't.
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Let's hypothetically assume Articles of Impeachment were voted and sent to trial in the Senate. Then what?
Who is subpoenaed first? It's going to be a race among Adam Schiff, Eric Ciaramella, Mark Zaid (Ciaramella's lawyer). Followed by Schiff's staffers, Vindman again, other Democrat members of the HPSCI.
You can expect extensive declassification. In particular, of transcripts of the closed-door meetings that Schiff won't release. (Hint: Classification is under the president's authority, not a Congress member's.)
After yesterday, you can expect extensive subpoena of communications records.
You can expect (yet another) rehash of the last three years, and you can bet that the GOP will be out for blood.
You can expect a concurrent effort to expel Schiff from the House. (No, members of the House can't be impeached. But they can be expelled.)
You can expect every witness from the Schiff hearings to be re-called and examined by hostile questioners, and you can bet Mitch McConnell won't shush the Republicans.
You can expect most of the upper levels of the Obama administration to be subpoenaed: if they appear, they will be examined in ways that would make a proctologist squirm; if they resist, you can bet an attempt will be made to compel them, and "no one is above the law" will be the watchword on Republican lips.
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If it comes to trial and Trump is acquitted, especially when the evidence against the Obama administration comes out, it probably means a massive election victory for Trump and the GOP. If it comes to trial at all, then it'll be happening during Iowa's caucuses and many of the major contenders will need to be at the trial — or they won't show up, and the Trump oppo ads will be solar fusion fire.
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Of course, there's one more little puzzle: why the rush? We went from the Mueller report (about two years) to this pretty glaringly trumped-up (I love that pun) conspiracy, and it's being pressed forward with "drafting Articles of Impeachment" starting on Monday.
Coincidentally, Monday is the day the ICIG report comes out. It promises to be pretty damning. So the Democrats are scheduling hearings again on drafting articles.
Funny old world.
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:27 pm to Music_City_Tiger
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Let's hypothetically assume Articles of Impeachment were voted and sent to trial in the Senate.
Then he's impeached.
That's what that word means.
Article should be "...don't think Trump will be removed", then it is spot on.
But, impeachment is the House process. It's 99% they will impeach him now.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:31 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Maybe a little over the top but I agree that the Dems don’t want this in the Senate.
That’s why I think they’ll organize enough votes for it not to pass.
That’s why I think they’ll organize enough votes for it not to pass.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:35 pm to Ace Midnight
His point is “I don’t think they are stupid enough to impeach, because this is the Pandora’s Box it will open for them.”
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:35 pm to Music_City_Tiger
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You can expect most of the upper levels of the Obama administration to be subpoenaed
I’d go all the way to the top. Put Obama on the stand and see what direction that takes.
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if they appear, they will be examined in ways that would make a proctologist squirm; if they resist, you can bet an attempt will be made to compel them
Again, Bucket Nuts and the US Marshal’s Service will see to that. Those subpoenas will be backed by the United States Supreme Court.
These people are playing a very dangerous game that they really don’t want to be playing. And they’re going to lose.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:37 pm to SquatchDawg
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they’ll organize enough votes for it not to pass
which will be devastating to them. the country will see this for the farce it was after watching all of the ire turn into a vote for not guilty.
they have backed themselves in a corner. impeaching brings the senate and the truth, while not impeaching absolves Trump and makes them all look like the whiny bitches they are
they get what they deserve either way
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:38 pm to Music_City_Tiger
The retards in the Democrat Party do not realize any of this and that is why Pelosi had her meltdown today. Even she knows it is a terrible move to go for impeachment but she has allowed
far left in the party to push their weak hand all in and they will pay a big price at the ballot box. If the impeachment vote fails than you have an all out war in the Democrat Party. If they vote to impeach than Mitch is going to have fun with this. I am going to say this and it is not going to land well among some ,but this is why you do not put a woman in a position of power. You see it with the way Hillary Clinton loss the election and you are seeing it with Nancy Pelosi. They make unintelligent decisions based on emotion and allow the incompetent retards in the party to take over.
far left in the party to push their weak hand all in and they will pay a big price at the ballot box. If the impeachment vote fails than you have an all out war in the Democrat Party. If they vote to impeach than Mitch is going to have fun with this. I am going to say this and it is not going to land well among some ,but this is why you do not put a woman in a position of power. You see it with the way Hillary Clinton loss the election and you are seeing it with Nancy Pelosi. They make unintelligent decisions based on emotion and allow the incompetent retards in the party to take over.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:39 pm to Midget Death Squad
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they have backed themselves in a corner.
And have been for some time. We’re starting to see the beginning of the endgame of that.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:40 pm to stelly1025
I see it as a case of Pelosi creating a situation to where the far left flourished and now The Squad and the other waterheads in the caucus are about to kill all of them.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:40 pm to Godfather1
They can destroy the Democrats on the stand, they had better tell the truth, because the questions they get asked the questioner will know the answers to.
They will try and nail Schiff for perjury, or force him to take the Fifth.
They will try and nail Schiff for perjury, or force him to take the Fifth.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:40 pm to teke184
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I see it as a case of Pelosi creating a situation to where the far left flourished and now The Squad and the other waterheads in the caucus are about to kill all of them.
Yep. Parasites inevitably kill their hosts.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:41 pm to Ace Midnight
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Then he's impeached.
Yeah but the OP left this quote out from later in the article - what Charlie Martin (author) was saying...
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I still think the risks are too great for the Democrats. Instead, we'll see this "drafting of Articles of Impeachment" drag on, "vaster than Empires and more slow," because they get all the political benefits of keeping IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT in the news, with none of the risks.
You do see how every day they are looking for some alternative (Censure) but they've pressed the Nuclear button now and can't seem to find a way to stop it.
Someone smarter than I stated it was the House leadership conceding the election but attempting to win back the Senate by calling into question every Senator who votes for Trump.
Personally, I believe it sets back the Democrats several years and I'm good with that outcome.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:44 pm to Ace Midnight
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Then he's impeached.
That's what that word means.
I know what the word means. You know what the word means. The author knows what the word means. Most of the educated world knows what the word means.
The author was telling you why that's not going to happen.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:46 pm to Music_City_Tiger
You can increase your money 8fold on PredictIt right now. BTW I agree with you
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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Then he's impeached.
That's what that word means.
Article should be "...don't think Trump will be removed", then it is spot on.
But, impeachment is the House process. It's 99% they will impeach him now.
No, he's making the point of why he doesn't think it will happen.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:56 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Trump just promised to call Pelosi, Schiff, and Biden to testify.
How in the hell can the House dems want this to happen?
How in the hell can the House dems want this to happen?
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:58 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:You're dreaming. The House Dems plan on running their reelection campaigns on "we impeached Trump, reelect us."
I agree that the Dems don’t want this in the Senate.
That’s why I think they’ll organize enough votes for it not to pass.
Yes, they ARE that delusional.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:21 pm to SquatchDawg
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That’s why I think they’ll organize enough votes for it not to pass.
I'm stealing this analogy from Dan Carlin. Think about swimming in the ocean. You've let yourself get a little too far from shore. There are huge breakers coming in. There is no way to make it to shore. You don't want to, but it seems like you have no choice but to dive under the breaker and swim clear of it.
Then you breach the water, clear of the big breaker and look back at the shore. You're even further away from shore, but you're clear of the breaker you're watching roll in now. And now, there is an even bigger breaker headed in. So, you feel you have no choice but to dive deep and swim under that breaker. (And so on...) Now, eventually you do that and you drown.
That's where the Democrats in the House find themselves in the closing weeks of 2019. They're too far from shore. There are huge breakers coming in. What to do?
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:29 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Perfect analogy!!
Ace Midnight
Posted on 12/5/19 at 3:36 pm to Ace Midnight
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Then he's impeached.
That's what that word means.
Article should be "...don't think Trump will be removed", then it is spot on.
But, impeachment is the House process. It's 99% they will impeach him now.
Hes trying to tell you that Obama, Biden and the Clintons will not allow that to happen
Do you really think that after Trump went scorched Earth on Cruz, Jeb, Hillary that he will hold anything back in his impeachment? He will lay them to waste. This is an election tool only
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