re: Why does the healthcare debate essentially revolve around like 4% of Americans?

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The whole point of insurance is mitigating risk.

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Yep.

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Any of us can develop a new serious health problem at any time.

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You're a terrible risk manager.

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The protections protect all of us from the risk of being uninsurable in the future.

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so give the uninsurable insurance. Makes complete sense.

Giving the uninsurable insurance is TERRIBLE way to manage risk--what you costs as the propose of insurance.

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If you're an idiot who runs to the fricking ER everytime you get a cough

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That probably doesn't happen much.

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and then not having any means to pay the fricking bill instead of buying some insurance, well that drives up MY costs , so yes I'm gonna tell you what to do.

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No you're not. If you think you have a right to do that, you should tell all the idiots who engage in activities like running, biking, white water rafting, climbing, skateboarding, etc,etc, because they are the ones who injure themselves more often, thru direct, sudden injuries or simply wearing their joints and bodies out... resulting in more visits to medical facilities... than people who don't engage in those activities.

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Because we don't advocate for the death of Americans merely due to illness.

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So what means of death do "we" advocate for? Oh that's right, assassination for having a different opinion, violent death due to differing values.

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You're free to, but most of us decided long ago that that was an immoral argument.

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We the People decided long ago to be a Representative Republic and not to decide things by mob rule.

Mob rule is itself an immoral decision that squelches and forces into submission all minorities, however those minorities be defined.

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Because we don't advocate for the death of Americans merely due to illness.

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This is silly.

The "uninsurable" are only uninsurable if you allow insurance companies to exclude them. Every other OECD nation guarantees all citizens healthcare by tightly regulating their healthcare industries like utilities. If we were to start with the proposition that all citizens get insurance and health insurance companies have to insure them the incentive will be there to finally bring our inefficiencies in healthcare spending under control. We get it backwards by trying to get costs down first before expanding coverage. It needs to work the other way.

Actually, I don't.

OECD nations keep costs down by tightly regulating usage and types of treatment

Here's a example

The UK NHS does not even cover one of the most common dental services: cosmetic braces

The only way you can get your kid braces on the NHS is if the teeth are so out of place rhat they harm the gums, mouth function, etc

Bottom line is really simple. They call it healthcare like we don't have healthcare. We do have healthcare. This is all about insurance.

Insurance itself is no more a human right than a car, a burger, or clothing. No one owes me their money to buy me a health -insurance- plan. That is plain dumb, and it's stealing money from people against their will to give other people stuff they could earn for themselves.

There are a handful of people I am -fine- paying their bill because they're truly incapable. That's, like you said, a very small amount of people.

Repeal. Do not replace. Do not make tax payers constantly bear the burden of paying for everyone else's every damn thing they want. We already SQUANDER tax payer dollars on entitlements. Half our f'king debt comes from that.

The government squanders all we give them. MAKE do with what you have and start making our tax dollars go further, and then we can talk about.... other shite. Not insurance.

Sure, but your paying thousands of dollars in taxes and don't get guaranteed all services