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re: Why do morals weigh so heavily in politics?

Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21888 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:55 am to
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One of the most interesting developments of the last few years is the change white evangelicals opinions on this issue, going from least likely to separate the personal and professional rectitude of politicians to the most likely. There's been some press about this as "the Trump Effect".


It is reflective of the total decline in the moral fabric of our nation. And by nation, I mean it's citizens.

We have accepted so much immorality as normal that we cant survive under our form of government.

As Adams said, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and true religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Only a very small % of our population fits the bill anymore. It really should not be any wonder why we are teetering on the edge of destruction as a nation.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by Milesahead
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
572 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:00 am to
To me, that is a weak argument. The choice isnt moral vs immoral, it is immoral with same political view vs presumed moral with opposing political view.
All are flawed. I accept that. I also sadly expect ALL politicians to be somewhat dishonest. That is a sad "truism" to me. With my premise that all are flawed, what is the lesser of evils: flawed morals or flawed politics? If they broke the law, let the law handle them. If not, i will choose to abstain from riding a high horse and vote ideology
Posted by Milesahead
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
572 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:03 am to
U have experience in years. Do you believe most politicians?
Does not trusting Cruz make him a worse candidate for SC than a liberal that you find honest?
Many thought Bernie honest. Would he make a better prez than Cruz?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18845 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:45 am to
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I do not use politicians as my compass for navigation.
But we SHOULD be able to because not everyone is like you.

The ignorant masses that don't have time or take time to make intelligent decisions SHOULD be able to elect people they can trust to make the decisions they want them to make.
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Using Moore as an example,
Now you have gone into specific itemized issues where one sin may or may not impact the ability of the person to govern.

As you know, all have sinned.

There is no perfect candidate.

The voter must decide on how important the sin/issue is to them before voting.

It usually comes down to the lesser of 2 evils.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:55 am to
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I don't have to read the entire law to understand the point that it's socialized healthcare, and I do know what socialized healthcare is


I strongly doubt that you do actually. It's simply a label you've affixed to it.

For example, tell us about Akerlof's Nobel Prize paper on information asymmetry and how it impacts healthcare markets.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:03 pm to
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U have experience in years. Do you believe most politicians? Does not trusting Cruz make him a worse candidate for SC than a liberal that you find honest? Many thought Bernie honest. Would he make a better prez than Cruz?


Honesty allows you to make an informed decision. If an honest politician tells me he's a communist then I'll vote against him with confidence.

If a lying POS tells me he is a free market capitalist I'll go back to flipping a coin.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41676 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:31 pm to
Morality should weigh heavily in politics. Do you really want someone who is willing to say and do anything to obtain and stay in power? Sounds like they are serving themselves, not their constituents.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:36 pm to
Did you guys even read Plato's Republic? Politics is a blood sport! Morality only exist in your mind!
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47608 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:23 pm to
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It really should not be any wonder why we are teetering on the edge of destruction as a nation.


Thanks Trump
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:24 pm to
Hummmm, another apparatchik of the deep state!
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