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re: Why do liberals (the left) hate facts and data so much?
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:22 am to Paddyshack
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:22 am to Paddyshack
Because facts may not make you feel good and you may have to deal with reality.
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:26 am to Lynxrufus2012
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They aren't liberals.
Ii have refused to call them liberals for over 30 years - they are the antithesis of 'liberal.'
but I am old fashioned. I revere the English language - so rich in its capacity to precisely define any topic you desire. But I refuse to 're-define' once useful words now made suspect by the ambush of the language by the left-wing radicals.
EVERYTHING in the leftist handbook as it is utilized today relies on the redefinition of long standing natural words and phrases - and many of the redefinitions totally negate their real meaning - "racism" and "equality" and "justice" and "choice" and "diversity" being the foremost examples off the top of my head. Every slogan of the leftists is either a cover-up of their true intent or is a meaningless platitude.
When the very language is criminalized it is almost impossible to communicate ideas that the power-mongers do not approve of.
Leftists do not possess any creativity at all EXCEPT in the fields of deflection, obfuscation, hypocrisy, and subversion.
They not longer have any latent concept individual responsibility or unbiased government or freedom and liberty or intellectual honesty or moral character.
They are alien beings.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:31 am to ChineseBandit58
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Ii have refused to call them liberals for over 30 years - they are the antithesis of 'liberal.'
but I am old fashioned. I revere the English language - so rich in its capacity to precisely define any topic you desire. But I refuse to 're-define' once useful words now made suspect by the ambush of the language by the left-wing radicals.
EVERYTHING in the leftist handbook as it is utilized today relies on the redefinition of long standing natural words and phrases - and many of the redefinitions totally negate their real meaning - "racism" and "equality" and "justice" and "choice" and "diversity" being the foremost examples off the top of my head. Every slogan of the leftists is either a cover-up of their true intent or is a meaningless platitude.
When the very language is criminalized it is almost impossible to communicate ideas that the power-mongers do not approve of.
In fairness, you are right. They are radicals. I used the term liberals because thats what they call themselves. I see that I'm making your point on the weaponization of language.
You are exactly right. They change the definition of words that we have been using forever. Such as "illegal alien". Now it is "undocumented non-citizen" and if you say "illegal alien" you are a racist. Changing the rules in the middle of the game to help paint their narrative that conservatives are bigots.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:33 am to ChineseBandit58
2 pages and none of them have showed up to take it on the chin.. bunch of coward arse pussies. I hate them all
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:33 am to Paddyshack
I've become convinced that they don't hate facts. They simply don't believe facts should stand in their way. The right and left operate under different value systems.
I recently found out why there are so many left wing profs in college these days. Tenured profs vote on new hires in their dept. The ratio of left:right in the 1960s was almost 1:1 even.
But right leaning profs vote on new hires based purely on merit, not ideology. Left wing profs vote on ideology and not qualifications.
So, the ratio kept shifting left as right wing profs continued to vote for some left wingers but zero left wing profs voted for conservatives.
Once the ratio hit 5:1 left wing around 2010 they have total control over all new hires. They know the facts and they simply ignore the data on a hire's qualification. They are on a mission that's bigger than facts.
I recently found out why there are so many left wing profs in college these days. Tenured profs vote on new hires in their dept. The ratio of left:right in the 1960s was almost 1:1 even.
But right leaning profs vote on new hires based purely on merit, not ideology. Left wing profs vote on ideology and not qualifications.
So, the ratio kept shifting left as right wing profs continued to vote for some left wingers but zero left wing profs voted for conservatives.
Once the ratio hit 5:1 left wing around 2010 they have total control over all new hires. They know the facts and they simply ignore the data on a hire's qualification. They are on a mission that's bigger than facts.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:35 am to AndrewD
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Amazing that Jindal's $700 million budget cut to education didn't help.
not acquainted with the particulars (haven't been a Louisiana resident for 50 of my 83 years)
BUT - the Dept of Education is a worthless (actually harmful) arm of government (along with many others) and the entire educational establishment has been being purposefully infiltrated by communist sympathizers for many decades and has been recently been completely overtaken by the new 'racism errwhere' cult.
Readin' Ritin' & Rithmetic' is a long gone concept - complete low order elements of todays society. Science and higher math is a racist concept. All that matters is "muh feelings." and the "new science" is all about discovery of new ways to create enclaves of grievances among the ignorant or irresponsible.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:36 am to TheRouxGuru
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2 pages and none of them have showed up to take it on the chin.. bunch of coward arse pussies. I hate them all
I agree with most of the arguments made in this thread, but this one doesn't compute. "Coward arse pussies" - that moniker these days is held exclusively by conservatives, who have cowered in their basements for over a year while their country was run over by these Looney Leftists.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:38 am to Zach
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I've become convinced that they don't hate facts. They simply don't believe facts should stand in their way. The right and left operate under different value systems.
For some, absolutely. I believe it is a combination of lack of morality, cognitive dissonance, and ignorance, willful or otherwise.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:42 am to David_DJS
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exclusively by conservatives, who have cowered in their basements for over a year while their country was run over by these Looney Leftists.
Conservatives were outraged, went out to vote in droves, record numbers in fact, and had an election stolen. I for one wasn't cowering in my basement, and have been resistant against everything COVID related since day one. Masks, vaccines, economic shutdowns, stimulus checks, etc. So personally I feel comfortable calling out the coward motherfrickers who can't and won't defend their viewpoints.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:43 am to Paddyshack
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The "Party of Science" and also the party of 117 genders.
One or the intellectual pillars of modernity, is deconstruction.
It’s taking things apart, and remaking them in ways that we find useful. That’s the underlying principle behind the scientific movement.
That principle can be applied to facts though. And it’s how we ended up with 117 genders.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:11 pm to David_DJS
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I agree with most of the arguments made in this thread, but this one doesn't compute. "Coward arse pussies" - that moniker these days is held exclusively by conservatives, who have cowered in their basements for over a year while their country was run over by these Looney Leftists.
I was putting politics aside when I made that comment
Also, I live in south Louisiana, I’m not even sure what a basement is.
I voted, not sure what else you wanted me to do. Definitely wasn’t cowering in a basement like you implied
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:26 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Also, I live in south Louisiana, I’m not even sure what a basement is.
I voted, not sure what else you wanted me to do. Definitely wasn’t cowering in a basement like you implied
I was responding to your comment, not suggesting what you have and haven't done.
The Right has definitely shrunk from the fight. I don't think that's even debatable. There's no way we'd be where we are today - politically, economically, culturally, legally (legal system), and now even militarily - if the Right had stood up to onslaught from the Left.
You voted, that's great - what else should you have done? That's a great question (genuinely); I'd suggest you/we look at how the Left organized, strategized and funded its actions. Think of all the institutions, industries and organizations that the Left controls. Compare that to what the Right controls. This isn't an accident.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:26 pm to Paddyshack
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:41 pm to cahoots
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Last I checked, Trump signed multiple "stimulus" bills and even supported bigger checks than what actually went out....
Seems yall aren't very good at accepting that fact
Did I say that I agreed with Trump's stimulus checks? No, I didn't. In fact, I said from day one I didn't agree with them. It's socialism and it doesn't "stimulate" anything. To your point about Trump wanting more. Uh yeah he wanted more because he wanted more to actually GO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, you dope. Not all of the billions in special interests the Democrats required as a prerequisite to get on board.
How many trillions has Biden's admin spent in less than 4 months, by the way? Asking for a friend.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:33 pm to Paddyshack
Because it in no way fits their line of thinking or talking points
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:34 pm to Paddyshack
Because facts and data have no feelings.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:07 pm to Zach
quote:This sums it up in a few words. Well done
they don't hate facts. They simply don't believe facts should stand in their way.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:15 pm to cahoots
ing.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:35 pm to Paddyshack
Aoc said that while she may not be factually correct she was morally correct.
I didn't know facts were anything but facts.
The only other thing to know, and all liberals believe this, is facts are racist.
These include any fbi crime stat.
I didn't know facts were anything but facts.
The only other thing to know, and all liberals believe this, is facts are racist.
These include any fbi crime stat.
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