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re: Why do churches get so worked up over gays?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:42 pm to TigerChief10
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:42 pm to TigerChief10
The simple answer is they don't.
I'm old and I have not one time in my lifetime heard my minister or school priest talk about gay folks.
Not one time.
I'm old and I have not one time in my lifetime heard my minister or school priest talk about gay folks.
Not one time.
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Yes, there are a few militant ones who do want to chance societal norms and want things to be declared "not a sin".
Well this is just silly. If a gay person finds out that his boss believes being gay is a sin I would say that a majority of gays believe that boss should be in the crosshairs of the EEOC. They haven't got us there yet but I majority of gays most certainly want that.
and I'm not even talking about the boss going up to the dude and saying he thinks it's a sin. You got guys out there trying to ruin people for simply going to a church that they know vocally believes being gay is a sin.
And THAT is where I diverge from the gays because they don't have a live and let live attitude. They have a live and you shut the frick up attitude
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:44 pm to Old Sarge
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I will agree that it’s not all, but I think the numbers probably much closer to 50% that demand praise and acceptance
I think the much higher percentage is "demand acceptance" and that's only if you include an inactive acceptance in that total, i.e. you don't have to be happy that someone is gay, but you need to be able to deal with it and not harass them over it.
I know very, very, VERY few that demand praise.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:45 pm to FooManChoo
quote:There can’t be a push to normalize something that wasn’t previously marginalized.
quote:False.
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If there wasn’t such a desire to normalize homosexuality, it wouldn’t be such a prevalent topic in sermons.
Other way around.
The church isn’t responding to the push to normalize gays. It’s the other way around, and the membrane of one’s bubble has to be pretty thick to prevent one from seeing this.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:46 pm to mindbreaker
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No they don't. they just want you to mind your own business. You think its a sin - so what keep it to yourself they are kissing in public - so what mind your own business they walk into a store to buy something - Treat them to good service and keep your ideals to yourself. If you want to hate something you have every right to hate it. You should not have a right to mistreat, belittle, and force your hate on to anyone else.
Who is advocating for that?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:46 pm to Pettifogger
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I think you're responding to an absolutist argument with an absolutist argument.
95% (LOL) of PT threads / responses are based on an absolutist argument.
if I'm playing into that in order to prove a point, guilty as charged.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I think the much higher percentage is "demand acceptance" and that's only if you include an inactive acceptance in that total, i.e. you don't have to be happy that someone is gay, but you need to be able to deal with it and not harass them over it
I know some pretty anti-gay people who never say a damned word to the gays they deal with in their everyday life be it at work or elsewhere. I'm not saying that the number is 0 of people who harass them but it ain't very large
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:47 pm to Old Sarge
quote:People who were ok with marriage bans (which are violations of constitutional rights) actually complain about this.
That’s just not true in today’s times, they demand that you openly accept and praise their lifestyle choices
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:48 pm to xiv
quote:How?
which are violations of constitutional rights
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:50 pm to SOSFAN
That’s not a fact at all
A married man of 50 years to an obese senior spouse chooses to be attracted to his wife for many reasons.
A married man of 50 years to an obese senior spouse chooses to be attracted to his wife for many reasons.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:50 pm to ShortyRob
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Gays don't follow that rule.
Oh you think I meant for them to get a pass and that's not the case. I'm not siding with anyone who forces their lifestyle on anyone else.
For the record if a Gay person see you going into church and doesn't agree with they also need to mind their own damn business.
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But if someone wants to say gay is a sin they should be able to say it just fine.
Fine, sure, they can, But if you take it to the extreme of berating strangers about it. Nah man you can get out of here with that shite
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:50 pm to ShortyRob
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Well this is just silly. If a gay person finds out that his boss believes being gay is a sin I would say that a majority of gays believe that boss should be in the crosshairs of the EEOC. They haven't got us there yet but I majority of gays most certainly want that.
Nah. Now, if a gay person finds out his boss believes being gay is a sin, AND said boss finds out employee is gay and fires employee because he is gay, then yes, the gay employee may want to see the EEOC involved.
But simply a personal held belief? As long as it's not impacting the work environment, I truly believe most gays don't care.
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And THAT is where I diverge from the gays because they don't have a live and let live attitude. They have a live and you shut the frick up attitude
As I have said elsewhere, I'm not denying this attitude exists for some, because it absolutely does, but I think the prevalance of this attitude is way, way overestimated.
Most of them are like you, live and let live, or in their case, let me live and let live, I'll do me and you do you.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:52 pm to ShortyRob
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I know some pretty anti-gay people who never say a damned word to the gays they deal with in their everyday life be it at work or elsewhere. I'm not saying that the number is 0 of people who harass them but it ain't very large
I would agree with this as well, in the average population.
When you are talking about the population that is actively involved in some christian denominations... I think that percentage increases, a lot.
And the title of this thread is, why do churches get so worked up over gays?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:53 pm to Old Sarge
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A married man of 50 years to an obese senior spouse chooses to be attracted to his wife
If you have 50 years with someone you're attracted to them because you have to much time/money invested and they will take 1/2 your shite if you leave.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:53 pm to SOSFAN
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If you have 50 years with someone you're attracted to them because you have to much time/money invested and they will take 1/2 your shite if you leave.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:53 pm to xiv
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I hope you mean Gemstone
Duplantis
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:54 pm to TigerChief10
God hates all sexual immorality and it’s a topic that Jesus preaches against constantly in the New Testament. Sexual immorality gains more attention than sins like gluttony and alcoholism because Jesus prioritizes it over the others in scripture.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Because a number of gays believe in God and believe in Heaven and in most of the Church's other teachings.
It seems that man has created a "hierarchy" of sins that can't be found anywhere in the Bible.
I don't believe being gay rises to the level of a mortal sin.
Look, if all of our church leaders were pious individuals then maybe i could get it. But they aren't... and many of them do things much more offensive than sleep with another adult male.
It's hard for me to believe that God is ok with a pastor using God's name to earn millions of dollars and own jets, but God isn't ok with a gay priest.
The hubris in this post is impressive. Your belief is one thing. Thinking your belief should be adopted by others...including an entire religion is another.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
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But simply a personal held belief? As long as it's not impacting the work environment, I truly believe most gays don't care.
That's just naive. I can hear the words hostile work environment on this one from a thousand miles away.
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As I have said elsewhere, I'm not denying this attitude exists for some, because it absolutely does, but I think the prevalance of this attitude is way, way overestimated
I'm a professional musician in my side time. Of the classical and chamber music variety. I suspect that in the last 30 years I've dealt with more gays in an average week then most people do in a year
And I'm here to tell you gays are militant as frick and if you think your average black employee play the race card every time something goes wrong you wait till somebody decides to make being gay a protected group. Cuz you ain't seen nothing yet.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:55 pm to SOSFAN
Again, you’re spinning to dodge the evident truths
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