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Why can't we adopt the Morgan Freeman stance on ending racism?

Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:46 am
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:46 am
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Wallace: “How are we going to get rid of racism and ….”

Freeman: “Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You want to say, `Well, I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.' You know what I'm saying?”


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Why must we feel like we always have to "have a conversation" on race?
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:49 am to
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Why must we feel like we always have to "have a conversation" on race?
Did you totally miss the part where a conversation had to happen for Wallace to get the message?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:50 am to
I think Freeman has changed his tune since that dated quote.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:51 am to
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I think Freeman has changed his tune since that dated quote.
Maybe he realized that ignoring problems doesn't make them go away?
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:51 am to
We need a conversation to agree to shut the hell up about everything/everyone

Not a conversation where we blame whitey for everything
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:54 am to
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Maybe he realized that ignoring problems doesn't make them go away?


But what is he physically doing about it? Saying we have a problem is not a step toward actually doing something.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:54 am to
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Wallace: “How are we going to get rid of racism and ….”

Freeman: “Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You want to say, `Well, I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.' You know what I'm saying?”


Or maybe people should try to understand the difference between using "black" or "white" in a bigotted way versus using them as mere adjectives.

Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:59 am to
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But what is he physically doing about it? Saying we have a problem is not a step toward actually doing something


The only thing that actually fixes this is the "butt-hurt" removal device
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:01 am to
I have seen this quote credited for the reason we must have in your face discussions...

quote:

First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." - MLK


This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 10:02 am
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:06 am to
That was morgan freeman before he got paid to do his latest movement.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:15 am to
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Maybe he realized that ignoring problems doesn't make them go away?


Sometimes ignoring problems does make them go away.

What I am really saying is that when you cry "racism" about everything, especially when racism was not a factor, then you end up generating blow-back and ill will. This makes the divide greater and instead of solving the issue it makes it worse. This is what is happening in America today.

The small amount of racism that still existed when Obama, and it was small as the election of Obama proved, is now growing because of the racism screamers. Obama was one of the antagonists who caused the racial divide to grow. He never missed an opportunity to grow the racial divide. It is all he knows as a "community organizer." "Community organizers" know nothing of unity, only of division.

Now that Obama is no longer president, the press has willingly stepped up to the plate to carry on his quest for dividing the country based on race, gender, and class.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:16 am to
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Freeman: “Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You want to say, `Well, I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.' You know what I'm saying?”


If you could make money by not talking about race, we wouldn't talk about it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

But what is he physically doing about it?
I don't know, he's a celebrity. What more should be expected of him than talking about it?
quote:

Saying we have a problem is not a step toward actually doing something.
Uh, that is absolutely step #1 in doing anything about anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:18 am to
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Maybe he realized that ignoring problems doesn't make them go away?

90% of the "problem" is fabricated bullshite to make the left salivate.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:18 am to
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that is absolutely step #1 in doing anything about anything.


Wrong.

Thinking about it is step #1, dummy.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Sometimes ignoring problems does make them go away.


I do not think there is a more white privileged thing to say. And I'm white, and I hate the term white privilege.
quote:

What I am really saying is that when you cry "racism" about everything, especially when racism was not a factor, then you end up generating blow-back and ill will. This makes the divide greater and instead of solving the issue it makes it worse. This is what is happening in America today.
I agree that this is a problem, and I can't stand it when people bring race into things where it's not a factor. But that's doesn't mean we should ignore the times where race (or any kind of discrimination) is a factor.
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Why must we feel like we always have to "have a conversation" on race?


"Having a conversation" = we're gonna tell Whitey how it is and what we want, and Whitey is gonna shut up and comply.

That's how these "having a conversation" people define it. And it's why there will never be a "conversation".
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:21 am to
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Wrong.

Thinking about it is step #1, dummy.


OK, that's true for some of us. But for others, talking is first, and then thinking is like #7 or something.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:23 am to
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But that's doesn't mean we should ignore the times where race (or any kind of discrimination) is a factor.


When everything is filtered through racial fabric, it's impossible to know anymore.

The left has overused the term to the point where they are the far left fringe are the only ones who really care.

When you have to invent "microaggressions" and "latent racism" you've jumped the shark.

There are real racist out there, stop the witch hunt and focus on them.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:24 am to
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Uh, that is absolutely step #1 in doing anything about anything.


Damn man, it's been talked about for nine years now without a trace of any actual action. Time for starting conversations is passe.
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