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re: Why are republicans generally against abortions and democrats in favor of them
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:08 pm to boxcar willie
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:08 pm to boxcar willie
I’m a republican and I’m for free abortion clinics on every corner.
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:10 pm to boxcar willie
One side has a blood lust for dead black babies.
The other side are Republicans.
The other side are Republicans.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:12 pm to Ton Chou
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when you engage in a life creating activity.
What about the situation wherein woman gets pregnant after being raped? Thus there wasn't voluntary engagement in life creating activity?
And don't get me wrong, I certainly consider myself anti-abortion, but I don't feel like I'm completely settled on certain circumstances, or "exceptions" as some may consider them.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:13 pm to Ton Chou
Planned Parenthood is a BIG business and big lobby of the dems.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:14 pm to boxcar willie
My general opposition to abortion isn’t really linked to my political leanings elsewhere. Even if I bought into the rest of the democratic platform I would still be against abortion.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:23 pm to Ton Chou
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Upvote this. Your body, your choice ends when you engage in a life creating activity. Otherwise, it’s like touching a hot stove and saying I choose not to be burned
That’s my gripe. It’s an incredibly moralistic position I take and it’s one of the few times I can’t talk politics without being emotional and losing my logic and reason.
That being said, if I do anything else life altering to another human, I don’t get a mulligan. I see abortion as a “get out of jail free” card for bad choices and those don’t exist.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:24 pm to boxcar willie
See which groups get the most abortions and which party needs those votes. It's all about the votes.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:25 pm to 3nOut
A leftist friend convinced me that I don’t care about abortions because I don’t protest them or attack abortion doctors.
He was right. I think it’s immoral but apparently I just don’t care that much. I wish it didn’t exist but it does save us money and I hate thinking about it that way.
He was right. I think it’s immoral but apparently I just don’t care that much. I wish it didn’t exist but it does save us money and I hate thinking about it that way.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:27 pm to roadGator
Abortions are disgusting but if a woman is raped and that results in conception she should be able to get an abortion
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:36 pm to davyjones
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What about the situation wherein woman gets pregnant after being raped?
How does killing an innocent child make the pain of the brutal attack better? She doesn't have to keep the child.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:36 pm to roadGator
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A leftist friend convinced me that I don’t care about abortions because I don’t protest them or attack abortion doctors
I’ve heard that argument before. I disagree because I don’t believe that attacking somebody I find immoral with violence to be the higher moral ground.
I do and have volunteered time with people in the foster system and an organization that helps counsel moms considering abortions and tries to find them adopted families as well as cover the cost of childbirth
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:52 pm to boxcar willie
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:01 pm to oklahogjr
The whole book of Philemon, Proverbs, and the Old Testament as well as the overarching them of equality before God. Heres a quote by Frederick Douglas giving his views that the Constitution and Bible are antithetical to slavery but what would he know...
"But it does not follow that the Constitution is in favour of these wrongs because the slaveholders have given it that interpretation. To be consistent in his logic, the City Hall speaker must follow the example of some of his brothers in America — he must not only fling away the Constitution, but the Bible. The Bible must follow the Constitution, for that, too, has been interpreted for slavery by American divines."
"But it does not follow that the Constitution is in favour of these wrongs because the slaveholders have given it that interpretation. To be consistent in his logic, the City Hall speaker must follow the example of some of his brothers in America — he must not only fling away the Constitution, but the Bible. The Bible must follow the Constitution, for that, too, has been interpreted for slavery by American divines."
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:02 pm to boxcar willie
We’ve covered the anti-abortion/pro-life arguments fairly well in this thread. But we’ve failed to address the underlying reason for the support for abortion rights.
Abortion was controversial but mostly understood as wrong by most people in society, but it was an option for women (and the man) to “get out of trouble”.
Abortion was always an option for women so they could maintain their freedom. The biological/existential problem for women has always been procreation. Women who for various reasons did not want to become a mother and the lifelong burden of that proposition faced the obviously difficult moral dilemma of facing that reality motherhood or killing their child.
Most women just accepted this fate of motherhood. They pretty much always knew it was an eventuality, so except for the rare career woman, they knew that motherhood was coming at some point.
HOWEVER, Once reliable birth-control became easily available and widely used, women were “liberated” from the automatic assumption that they would face an unexpected and unwanted motherhood.
The combination of birth control and abortion together provided a radical shift in women’s lives. It is what allows them to be sexually active and be able to pursue careers and independence from men with confidence.
Of course, if women (and men - it takes 2 to Tango) would have a healthier sense of responsibility and respect for the gift of sexuality, which cannot be totally separated from it’s procreative function, then we would have a better ability to maintain a correct moral stance about abortion, which is a terrible abomination, the killing of innocent life.
Abortion was controversial but mostly understood as wrong by most people in society, but it was an option for women (and the man) to “get out of trouble”.
Abortion was always an option for women so they could maintain their freedom. The biological/existential problem for women has always been procreation. Women who for various reasons did not want to become a mother and the lifelong burden of that proposition faced the obviously difficult moral dilemma of facing that reality motherhood or killing their child.
Most women just accepted this fate of motherhood. They pretty much always knew it was an eventuality, so except for the rare career woman, they knew that motherhood was coming at some point.
HOWEVER, Once reliable birth-control became easily available and widely used, women were “liberated” from the automatic assumption that they would face an unexpected and unwanted motherhood.
The combination of birth control and abortion together provided a radical shift in women’s lives. It is what allows them to be sexually active and be able to pursue careers and independence from men with confidence.
Of course, if women (and men - it takes 2 to Tango) would have a healthier sense of responsibility and respect for the gift of sexuality, which cannot be totally separated from it’s procreative function, then we would have a better ability to maintain a correct moral stance about abortion, which is a terrible abomination, the killing of innocent life.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:14 pm to boxcar willie
Im against taxpayer money funding abortion.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:29 pm to boxcar willie
Adrenochrome
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:35 pm to boxcar willie
If someone wants an abortion, that's between them and God. I just don't think that it should in any way be paid for by tax money that I contribute.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:49 pm to LSUSkip
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If someone wants an abortion, that's between them and God. I just don't think that it should in any way be paid for by tax money that I contribute.
That side-steps the issue. What about the innocent child?
Would you have the same argument about the issue, that it’s just between the woman and God, if we were talking about a mother killing her 1 month old “post-natal” child?
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:51 pm to boxcar willie
Value of life vs. Its not fair that women are the ones to get pregnant...so to make it fair...they should have the right to kill them
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:51 pm to Jimbeaux
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That side-steps the issue. What about the innocent child?
A leftist's child is not innocent. They will grow up and burn down shite.
Nip it in the bud.
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