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re: Why are poors for these tax cuts?

Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:37 am to
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19474 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:37 am to
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We make high value, high tech products and offshore stuff that can be produced cheaply. We are winning. Y'all are just uninformed and believing liars who should know better.


Remember that time when the government lied about the china virus, shut down the economy and we had a “container crisis” and you couldn’t buy a vehicle because of electronic components and chips? Ford was all but shut down.

How about our naval vessels that can no longer be produced here? We rely heavily on foreign manufacturing for key components that drive our economy. That’s a bad thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:41 am to
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Trade deficits with China benefit us?


Yes

Small to medium businesses buy cheap components, assemble here in the USA and profit, and you beneift.

Trade wars benefit big corporations, I suppose thats where your loyalty really lies.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7594 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:42 am to
Cuts or no cuts the poor don’t pay much, if anything, in taxes. The rich carry them yet they complain about the rich. The rich support them. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you, literally.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:47 am to
I hate to break this to you, but we're importing more than cheap stuff. Cars, computers, electrical machinery, medicine, etc. Most of our factories rely on foreign machinery and parts to run. Mexico is set to replace China for our imports. Where do your loyalties lie?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:49 am to
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but we're importing more than cheap stuff. Cars, computers, electrical machinery, medicine, etc


Which is awesome for you and me.

America is the consumer, its not the government. We need more competition, not less.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:50 am to
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This neuroscientist is baffled as well.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:54 am to
Maybe a lot of poors hope to be richs.

Rich people hire poor people when it’s boom-time. Everyone prospers. As you move up you do pay more… just not ‘per capita’.

You and all the commies know this, but you will never change your fricked up perception/worldview, so…
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15258 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 10:26 am to
all the dems have is muh tax cuts for the rich - and it isn't even true - the middle class gets a ton out of this. The country is wising up to the fact that every word out of the libs is a lie.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 10:28 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59375 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 10:30 am to
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Rich people hire poor people when it’s boom-time

Trickle down fallacy
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:11 am to
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Trickle down fallacy


Worked for my parents… working for me.

Maybe nothing trickled down for you and the people you know. Of course, there’s some boot strapping and hard work, but by and large it works.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59375 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:54 am to
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Worked for my parents… working for me.

Maybe nothing trickled down for you and the people you know. Of course, there’s some boot strapping and hard work, but by and large it works.


Someone’s success is not contingent on whether or not other people get tax cuts. Super strange that you are attributing your parents success and your own to tax cuts for other people.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5593 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:24 pm to
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The rich support them. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you, literally.


It’s vice-versa also
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1261 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:25 pm to
In order to get tax cuts, you have to actually pay taxes.

Who knew?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19322 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:47 pm to
I love all of the hand wringing about me and others like me getting to keep more of the money that we earned rather than having it taken by force and given to other countries and other people who never figured out how to function in society. In 2024 I basically worked into March before I got to keep my earnings. And that’s just for Federal tax - not state, local, payroll, etc.

So for all of those out there that think it’s a travesty that I get to keep more of my income that I use to provide for my family, kids college, donations and not being a general leech on the public….

….a heart felt frick you.

And for everyone using the deficit as cover for bitching about tax reductions…yeah that sucks….but I can assure you the noble poor will still have their hands out when TSHTF and the savers will still have to pay for it.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9537 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:53 pm to
What’s considered “same”?

The rich charged what the poor are…or the poor charged what the rich are?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125784 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Trickle down fallacy


It’s not. The wealthy’s discretionary spending fuels a huge chunk of our economy.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
1782 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:05 pm to
Jesus H Christ, there needs to be some education in public schools about who is actually paying federal income taxes. This rhetoric needs to fricking stop.

Its hard to give tax breaks to people who don't pay any taxes (the bottom brackets actually RECEIVE welfare through refundable tax credits) The top 0.1% pay 34%. The top 10% pay roughly 70% of all taxes collected.

You can't give a tax cut to someone who doesn't pay anything in. Its the most progressive tax system in the world. I personally think you need to be paying something into the system in order to vote. I don't think someone should be able to vote my money into their pockets.

Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:24 pm to
Here is just a guess....just a guess...but I'm gonna guess when a person is paying 30% of his gross income he is going to get less impact than a person that was already paying little to no taxes. Lmao....how do you get a fkn tax break when you don't pay taxes...lol
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:27 pm to
You can't explain it to people this dumb...but yes...they people complaining are the ones who won't get any breaks because they DONT PAY TAXES. THEY CANT UNDERSTAND.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23057 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:34 pm to
How are there still people who don’t understand that the bottom 40% of workers pay Zero income tax

You can’t get a tax break when you don’t pay tax


Oh I guess some could if you don’t tax tips

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