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Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:49 am to geauxbrown
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BTW, I'm totally against sending money or aid to Ukraine. Let NATO handle it.
I'm so confused.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:51 am to burger bearcat
I fit that description and don’t know anyone who doesn’t see Ukraine for what it is - a chance for democrats and the GOPe to launder cash.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:54 am to Errerrerrwere
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Russia has a GDP the size of the state of Pennsylvania.
Iran has an economy about 1/10th of that.
N. Korean about 1/10th of that.
Hamas has a GDP of a moderate suburban neighborhood.
But you would be foolish to disregard any of them as a threat.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:58 am to BigJim
Iran's GDP is better than 1/5th that of Russia's.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:You asked, "Are you unaware of Putin's actions in Georgia in 2008?"
"What was Putin doing from 2000-2008?
Now you're asking a new question?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:02 pm to BigJim
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Hamas has a GDP of a moderate suburban neighborhood.
Their main industry seems to be rockets, and they suck at making them.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Russia has a GDP the size of the state of Pennsylvania.
In detail please explain how they are a major threat to the United States.
In his antagonisms toward the U.S. he'll continue to be like the chihuahua yip, yip, yipping at the heels of an American Pit Bull.
But he bears watching in how much time he takes from his war maneuvers and stuffing his pockets with the ill-gotten gains he's mulcted from the Russian people while continuing to search globally for financial sanctuaries/havens to hide them.
As we learned he was doing with the now faltering Credit Suisse.
While still in "yipping" mode, he's aligned with the dregs in BRICS, so he's looking for some additional leverage in this Hemisphere.
How successful he'll be could depend on what role he plays in that Chinese-built Canal - the Communist Canal - across Nicaragua.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:10 pm to geauxbrown
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No one my age (57) worries about Japan. Neither did my father or grandfather at any given time.
Okay? Anecdotal.
There were many books and predictions made about Japan rearming in the 1980s to become a superpower to rival the US
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:11 pm to LakeCharles
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At least you are consistent. You are wrong. One of my first memories in life is the fear my mother had during the Cuban missile crisis. I was 2. Ukraine is Russia's interest and no one here would give a flying frick about Russia taking land that historically belonged to Russia back except our politicians get paid by Ukraine.
Okay? “No one here”
OP’s asking about the people that aren’t likely on here or yourself. Get over yourself.
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The biggest threats to the United States are our politicians in DC and stupid mouthbreathing motherfrickers like you.
The frick?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:13 pm to OccamsStubble
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I fit that description and don’t know anyone who doesn’t see Ukraine for what it is - a chance for democrats and the GOPe to launder cash.
Yep.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:18 pm to burger bearcat
I’m a center right Boomer and don’t give a flying f@ck about Ukraine and don’t want one cent of American taxpayer money to fund this war.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:20 pm to rmnldr
There's also plenty of republicans with their hand in the Ukraine cookie jar.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:23 pm to BigJim
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But you would be foolish to disregard any of them as a threat.
A threat to what? It’s a Barbary Pirate threat at best.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:36 pm to Antoninus
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Because we are less self-centered than your generation
Did AggieHank, the board's biggest Narcissist, REALLY just post that unironically?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:37 pm to rmnldr
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It’s a Barbary Pirate threat at best.
You know we went to war with them, right?
And limiting your idea of a threat as any country that can invade the US is a short-sighted view of the world.
That said, no one, well at least not me, is calling for a US invasion of Russia, Iran, N. Korea or Hamas. But you don't shrug and go "not my problem," either.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:38 pm to Antoninus
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and feel some obligation to assist people who are fighting for their freedom.
By spending money that doesn't belong to you and possibly sending young, brave Americans to their deaths?
Jeez, AntoniusHankus, you are SOOOOOO brave and YOUR SACRIFICE is simply legendary.....
Do you realize how stupid you sound virtue-signaling whilst placing OTHER peoples' skin in the game?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:40 pm to Wee Ice Mon
Maybe in the 1950s but radiation effects were better understood by the mid to late 1960s. I fall into the conservative boomer range. We don’t want to go through a resurgence of Russia by reconstituting the Soviet empire. My concern though is that there has been shoddy accounting of aid and we have no business paying civilian salaries in Ukraine.
War is an ugly business and is to be avoided . The best way to avoid war is through strength. Biden showed weakness in Afghanistan in the way he botched withdrawal. That led to Ukraine and the mess in Gaza. We have emboldened Iran and our other enemies.
Trump did the opposite killing Solemani. He showed strength and thus avoided war.
War is an ugly business and is to be avoided . The best way to avoid war is through strength. Biden showed weakness in Afghanistan in the way he botched withdrawal. That led to Ukraine and the mess in Gaza. We have emboldened Iran and our other enemies.
Trump did the opposite killing Solemani. He showed strength and thus avoided war.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:49 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:How snuggly with the Russian bear must one be, to believe that Georgia initiated war with Russia?quote:You mean in the war Georgia started?
Are you unaware of Putin's actions in Georgia in 2008?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:49 pm to burger bearcat
Most moderates in both parties hold onto the post-cold war consensus that briefly reigned with a lot of neo-con and neo-lib input, that the US is a force for good in the world, and that foreign policy should be the promotion of human rights and free trade and international law. One of the interesting things about the war in Ukraine is that you can literally see the uni-party moderates agreeing with each other more than their respective bases. Ie the actual right doesn’t want any foreign entanglements, and the hard right actively wants Putin to win because he is a based despot, and the hard left also wants Putin to win because it hurts American imperialism and NATO (an organization which again the right and left oppose and moderates support)
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