re: Who or what is Antifa?

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I believe it is an anarchist organization funded by Soros

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Marxist.

I believe they originated from the Blac Block groups that organized violent protests in Europe that were the forerunners of the WTO and Occupy insurrections. And were very likely funded by our favorite Hungarian Jewish Nazi.

Anarcho-communist terrorists who are, probably, a majority of larpers with a hard core group true believers. Did you sleep through the George Floyd riots?

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Then the Democrats are the fascists because they definitely put the government ahead of the individual. They also have tried to limit freedom of speech, religion and the right to bear arms. They support crony capitalism and just like Hitler don’t value the sanctity of life. These little anarchists don’t know what is and isn’t fascism.

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You could argue we were living under cultural fascism. If you identify women by biological traits and don’t believe all white people are bad you had to be removed from society. Or canceled.

Antifa is leftist equivalent to the Bandidos

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Antifa
Stands for
Anti - Fascism

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Correct, they are fascists hiding behind this name. Their behavior exhibits fascism at all times, there’s no argument that can possibly refute that.



Very similar to these democrat idiots who are part of the “Working Families Party”.

Sounds nice, right? They don’t work, they have no families, and they’re communists hiding behind a nice sounding name.


It’s a tactic of lying democrats, southern poverty law center, ACLU, etc etc etc

I’ll give you my actual experiences.

TL;Dr, basically everything you read in the media is bullshite, antifa is basically a group that exists to get into fights with fascists/nazis etc.

I’m not from the US, I grew up in the the UK. By the time I was 16 I would go to demonstrations, eventually I met a group called the Wombles. They’re named after a British animated show from the 80s. The wombles weren’t really anti-fash, it was more a group that existed as a response to heavy handed police tactics at demonstrations. Anyone who has been to a larger demonstration with riot police will tell you, they tend to strike first and without warning, and I don’t mean one angry cop hitting someone with a baton I mean the line moving in unison in a violent way.

We would wear foam padding under what I can best describe as white jump suits (I think they’re for farming or construction maybe). We were not particularly effective, a couple of hundred well trained riot cops with good organization in real time coordination will tend to be able to shut down 5-10k people by closing off roads and kettling. Beating the cops on the streets takes either huge huge numbers and multiple independent coordinated groups, it wasn’t until about 2010 and the student protests that I saw that happen.

Don’t want to age myself too much here but around the late 90s I got involved with my local AFA (anti fascist action) group, after I found them through indymedia - some of you oldies may remember that. I was still basically a kid and they were old as frick and some were pretty “crusty”, but it was a great group for me since almost all my friends were entirely apolitical. We did exactly two things, 1 was get drunk together on the regular, and 2 was we’d go fight the local fascists - in the UK this was the BNP or the NF (often the same people). Main difference was we were going to find them directly at their events and the police were not always involved (also we didn’t wear home made body armor). Because I was so young at the time, I’d often get told I had to stand back, as I got a bit older and tried to bulk up a bit I did get involved.

Most times nothing happened except a bit of yelling, but when it did it was almost like a mass fight club, if a man went down or tried to get away, there was respect for that. I don’t remember weapons ever being used although we did hear of it sometimes. I think 4 times it actually kicked off and we “won” a couple and we “lost” a couple, on other occasions we just turned up with way more people than they had so they immediately fricked off - this tended to be more when they were trying to hassle a pub owner or some local business, they were more organized when they were having an actual protest. One of the times I could see we were getting smashed to bits so I just ran for it. Adrenaline is a crazy thing, I think I ran flat out through packed streets in London for maybe 20 minutes.

The reason I kept coming back to do it that straight up it was the most fun I’d ever had. It gave me a different sense of community and the adrenaline rush was unreal. As a young man I wasn’t finding that anywhere else in my life. But at the same time, I was quite ideological, and I began to become disillusioned - in particular, although I enjoyed getting physical it was soon pretty obvious we weren’t solving any problems in the world. We saw ourselves as the good guys because we would literally fight fascists, but then we just went home and did the same thing a few weeks later. On one occasion fighting had broken out near a pub, one of their lads got me in a corner, I’m not huge but he must’ve been 5ft 4 (he was an adult dw) and I hit him so hard I saw the spit come out of his mouth, that memory stayed with me since, I think I might have broken his jaw because he went down and just held his face. With that and then me getting old enough to go to university I moved away to what happened to be a small town with no such shenanigans. When I came back to London I was a grown man and had to work a full time job miles away from where I lived so I just didn’t get involved but even if those things weren’t true, I was no longer an angry ball of hormones and I’d found some other outlets.

That’s the UK but honestly I don’t see the US being all that different. The far right groups seem to be much more ideologically motivated here than there, but I can’t tell if that’s just because time has passed and things changed. Antifa here is a mix of crusties, true believers and/or people who don’t mind a fight. They’re not organized in any useful or meaningful way. The antifa group in Portland probably know the people in Seattle but there’s no “central hq”, neither of those groups would know the antifa in say Chicago, maybe one guy knows one guy. This is a massive contrast to say The Proud Boys or Oathkeepers which literally have membership fees and an organizational structure. The idea of antifa “bussing in” or that antifa are somehow behind riots in 2020 is laughable. The rumors and panic spread by attaching antifa to an article or a tweet is almost entirely unfounded and hyped by a right wing media ecosystem that (like others) thrives on clicks over reality - in December 2020 when some internet rando came up with the claim that the head of dominion was on a zoom with the antifa leadership and said that the election was taken care of got as far as OAN.

Well, whatever they are they sure do feel like they need to scrub their social media. Why do you think that is if it’s just an idea?