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re: Who is Vindman and what did he do?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:16 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:16 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Well isn't that convenient.
Whether he first spoke with the NSC counsel or with his direct civilian supervisor has absolutely no bearing whatsoever upon my analysis of the situation. In fact, his very existence has absolutely no bearing up on my analysis of the situation.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:19 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Come on, TBS. Are we really going to see that ridiculous HTC meme every time someone asserts that something is irrelevant?
You have certainly formed opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.
Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?
You have certainly formed opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.
Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:20 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Who is Vindman and what did he do?
9 pages later......
quote:
In fact, his very existence has absolutely no bearing up on my analysis of the situation.
The fox
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:20 pm to Centinel
quote:No, just lazy.
Well played sir.
I ask you the same question that I asked TBS.
quote:
You have certainly formed opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.
Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:21 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Let’s say that he had gone to Morrison first, who (being a civilian) probably would have told him to to follow civilian NSC protocol and consult NSC counsel.
You are breaking your own rules about speculation, ProggyHank.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:22 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?
We're not discussing Trump, we're discussing Vindman.
You know, "Who is Vindman and what did he do?", your Subject line?
Unless you'd like to amend your OP and Topic to some broader subject about Trump?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:23 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:That went down the tubes by the second page. I decided to go with the flow, since no one would answer most of the objective questions.
You are breaking your own rules about speculation, ProggyHank.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:23 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
since no one would answer most of the objective questions.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:23 pm to AggieHank86
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opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.
Being a moderate super centrist, does it bother you that dems are trying to impeach a president over opinions?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:31 pm to AggieHank86
That would be because your " objective " questions were asinine because you had already cleary been told how military chain of command works. You didn't like the answer so kept trying to get a new one.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:33 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Like LibbyHank will answer that.
Being a moderate super centrist, does it bother you that dems are trying to impeach a president over opinions?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:33 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:I would hardly describe myself that way. My views on the primacy of the individual over the State are rather far outside the mainstream. I think 90% of the posters on this forum are closet authoritarians.
Being a moderate super centrist, does it bother you that dems are trying to impeach a president over opinions?
But I think it is subject to interpretation whether Trump was seeking foreign aid in squelching a domestic political opponent. I personally think that is exactly what he was doing, but I also think that the impeachment nonsense is a waste of time — meaningless kabuki theatre. Of course, I thought the same about Billy Jeff’s impeachment and about the meaningless annual GOP votes on Obamacare. For decades, DC has been Benten Kozo writ large.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:34 pm to Jbird
quote:Yawn
Like LibbyHank will answer that.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:34 pm to AggieHank86
quote:But does it matter if he broke laws?
Yawn
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:38 pm to AggieHank86
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subject to interpretation whether Trump was seeking foreign aid in squelching a domestic political opponent. I personally think that is exactly what he was doing
Could you define squelching and why it is bad/illegal.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:40 pm to Jbird
quote:yes, I think it is probably fairly important to know whether the President of the United States was using the foreign policy of this nation to hamstring a domestic political opponent.
But does it matter if he broke laws?
Certainly more important than whether one of tens of thousands of field grade military officers consulted legal counsel before confronting his supervisor.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:41 pm to AggieHank86
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Certainly more important than whether one of tens of thousands of field grade military officers consulted legal counsel before confronting his supervisor.
The only person babbling this line of bullshite is you LibbyHank.
We are talking about one field grade officer who clearly and knowingly broke the law.
We knew right away what the objective of your thread was.
The early protection and rehabilitation of a shitty officer, you need him for your cause.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:45 pm to AggieHank86
If a POTUS hears about possible illegal activity by a American politician running against other democrats in their primary how does he unhear it?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:45 pm to goatmilker
quote:squelch
Could you define squelching and why it is bad/illegal.
/skwelCH/
forcefully silence or suppress.
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