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re: Who is Vindman and what did he do?

Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Whether he first spoke with the NSC counsel or with his direct civilian supervisor has absolutely no bearing whatsoever upon my analysis of the situation. In fact, his very existence has absolutely no bearing up on my analysis of the situation.
Well isn't that convenient.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:16 pm to


Well played sir.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:19 pm to
Come on, TBS. Are we really going to see that ridiculous HTC meme every time someone asserts that something is irrelevant?

You have certainly formed opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.

Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Who is Vindman and what did he do?


9 pages later......

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In fact, his very existence has absolutely no bearing up on my analysis of the situation.


The fox
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Well played sir.
No, just lazy.

I ask you the same question that I asked TBS.
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You have certainly formed opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.

Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Let’s say that he had gone to Morrison first, who (being a civilian) probably would have told him to to follow civilian NSC protocol and consult NSC counsel.


You are breaking your own rules about speculation, ProggyHank.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:22 pm to
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Did the question of whether Vindman first spoke with with Morrison or with Eisenberg play any role whatsoever in the formation of those opinions?


We're not discussing Trump, we're discussing Vindman.

You know, "Who is Vindman and what did he do?", your Subject line?

Unless you'd like to amend your OP and Topic to some broader subject about Trump?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:23 pm to
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You are breaking your own rules about speculation, ProggyHank.
That went down the tubes by the second page. I decided to go with the flow, since no one would answer most of the objective questions.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:23 pm to
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since no one would answer most of the objective questions.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:23 pm to
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opinions about whether Trump’s actions were proper or improper.


Being a moderate super centrist, does it bother you that dems are trying to impeach a president over opinions?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:31 pm to
That would be because your " objective " questions were asinine because you had already cleary been told how military chain of command works. You didn't like the answer so kept trying to get a new one.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
83195 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Being a moderate super centrist, does it bother you that dems are trying to impeach a president over opinions?
Like LibbyHank will answer that.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Being a moderate super centrist, does it bother you that dems are trying to impeach a president over opinions?
I would hardly describe myself that way. My views on the primacy of the individual over the State are rather far outside the mainstream. I think 90% of the posters on this forum are closet authoritarians.

But I think it is subject to interpretation whether Trump was seeking foreign aid in squelching a domestic political opponent. I personally think that is exactly what he was doing, but I also think that the impeachment nonsense is a waste of time — meaningless kabuki theatre. Of course, I thought the same about Billy Jeff’s impeachment and about the meaningless annual GOP votes on Obamacare. For decades, DC has been Benten Kozo writ large.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Like LibbyHank will answer that.
Yawn
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Yawn
But does it matter if he broke laws?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:38 pm to
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subject to interpretation whether Trump was seeking foreign aid in squelching a domestic political opponent. I personally think that is exactly what he was doing


Could you define squelching and why it is bad/illegal.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:40 pm to
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But does it matter if he broke laws?
yes, I think it is probably fairly important to know whether the President of the United States was using the foreign policy of this nation to hamstring a domestic political opponent.

Certainly more important than whether one of tens of thousands of field grade military officers consulted legal counsel before confronting his supervisor.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
83195 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Certainly more important than whether one of tens of thousands of field grade military officers consulted legal counsel before confronting his supervisor.


The only person babbling this line of bullshite is you LibbyHank.

We are talking about one field grade officer who clearly and knowingly broke the law.

We knew right away what the objective of your thread was.

The early protection and rehabilitation of a shitty officer, you need him for your cause.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:45 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73760 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:45 pm to
If a POTUS hears about possible illegal activity by a American politician running against other democrats in their primary how does he unhear it?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:45 pm to
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Could you define squelching and why it is bad/illegal.
squelch
/skwelCH/
forcefully silence or suppress.

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