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re: Who argued Trump didn't have plenary powers to declassify?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:20 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:20 pm to AggieHank86
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declassified really comes down to… Do you believe Donald Trump?
The binary choice is believing Trump or believing his mentally insane, lying critics, then yes...yes we should believe Trump....
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:50 pm to AggieHank86
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Did trump magically declassified these documents before leaving the White House? Did he wave his dick over the documents and chant some incantation? We just don’t know. That is the point.
It was also the point in Clinton’s sock drawer tapes. No memos were produced that showed declassification. At the time they should have been anyway.
The partisan DC judge came to the rescue of Clinton with the still standing ruling. The democrats.. nor republicans… tied up the loose ends and legislated anything different.
It was also not challenged.
So the running save made for Clinton… turns out to be of heavy benefit to Trump.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:53 pm to AggieHank86
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Did he wave his dick over the documents and chant some incantation? We just don’t know. That is the point.
Incredibly childish language.
Be better....
Also, if that's what he did, it is perfectly legal and you are owed no further explanation and THAT is the point.
Stop obsessing over this.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:55 pm to oogabooga68
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The binary choice is believing Trump or believing his mentally insane, lying critics, then yes...yes we should believe Trump...
Ohh cmon…. Look at all the media and leftists have been right about!!
Hell … they are STILL trying to push that updated boosters will prevent Covid spread.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:59 pm to CleverUserName
quote:As I recall, that case did not address questions of "declassification," but rather questions of the demarcation between personal records and public documents.
Did trump magically declassified these documents before leaving the White House? Did he wave his dick over the documents and chant some incantation? We just don’t know. That is the point.quote:
It was also the point in Clinton’s sock drawer tapes. No memos were produced that showed declassification.
Didn't someone like Judicial Watch want some tapes that they claimed were public, but Clinton claimed were personal?
Am I misremembering?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:17 pm to AggieHank86
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As I recall, that case did not address questions of "declassification," but rather questions of the demarcation between personal records and public documents. Didn't someone like Judicial Watch want some tapes that they claimed were public, but Clinton claimed were personal? Am I misremembering?
They contained taped copies of the president’s conversations. And the conversations were not of weddings and grandkids as Hillary claims. They were of presidential matters. Also… there were no listing of content of these tapes. We’re there conversations related to Vincent Foster? Monica Lewinsky? Well that would have been information that should have been fulfilled in Ken Starr's subpoena requests.
If it was just of trivial stuff…. Well why the pushback? Just allowing the tapes to play would have answered all the questions.
However… the judge went farther than mere personal vs presidential. She probably may not have had to.. but she did. And her continued opinion is what is relevant.
The ruling stated that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:20 pm to CleverUserName
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The ruling stated that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.
It's basically the only logical conclusion.
There is simply nobody in the executive department with authority OVER a President. WHO would be able to tell him he couldn't do such a thing and under whose authority?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:30 pm to loogaroo
Everyone knows that the vice president is the one who has absolute power to declassify anything he wants. Not the president.
I loved how the white house tried to shine that turd of a situation up. Basically - "Well, as soon as law enforcement discovered them, he turned them over.". Had em for over 6 years, but he only turned them over after law enforcement discovered them.
shite be like him robbing a bank, keeping the stolen money for over 6 years... and once law enforcement tracks the stolen money down, he acts all righteous and wants a pat on the back for returning the stolen money..
I loved how the white house tried to shine that turd of a situation up. Basically - "Well, as soon as law enforcement discovered them, he turned them over.". Had em for over 6 years, but he only turned them over after law enforcement discovered them.
shite be like him robbing a bank, keeping the stolen money for over 6 years... and once law enforcement tracks the stolen money down, he acts all righteous and wants a pat on the back for returning the stolen money..
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:14 am to CleverUserName
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Again… according to the DC courts on a ruling on Bill Clinton and his sock drawer tapes…is absolutely fine to do
That was a Presidential Records Act case not a classified document case.
Apples to oranges.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:42 am to Y.A. Tittle
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WHO would be able to tell him he couldn't do such a thing and under whose authority?
Exactly. He's the boss.
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