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re: White Nationalist are not White Supremacist

Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:30 pm to
So what? Use a dictionary. White is an adjective. Nationalist is a word that stands on its own.

Democrats and their ilk insisted on turning it into vernacular that it isn't.
Posted by blazzando
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:32 pm to
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White nationalism is a type of nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity.[2][3][4] Its proponents identify with and are attached to the concept of a white nation.[5] White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.[4] Many white nationalists believe that miscegenation, multiculturalism, immigration of nonwhites and low birth rates among whites are threatening the white race,[6] and some believe these things are being promoted as part of an attempted white genocide.[6]

Analysts describe white nationalism as overlapping with white supremacism and white separatism.[7][4][6][8][9][10] White nationalism is sometimes described as a euphemism for, or subset of, white supremacism, and the two have been used interchangeably by journalists and analysts.[8][11] White separatism is the pursuit of a "white-only state"; supremacism is the belief that white people are superior to nonwhites and should dominate them,[6][8][9] taking ideas from social Darwinism and Nazism.[12] White nationalists generally avoid the term "supremacy" because it has negative connotations.[13][14]

Critics argue that the term "white nationalism" is simply a "rebranding" and ideas such as white pride exist solely to provide a sanitized public face for white supremacy, and that most white nationalist groups promote racial violence.[15]


White nationalism - Wikipedia
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:37 pm to
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A White Nationalist is simply a white person that loves their country.
Nah, that’s not what the term means.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37619 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:38 pm to
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So what? Use a dictionary. White is an adjective. Nationalist is a word that stands on its own.

Democrats and their ilk insisted on turning it into vernacular that it isn't.
Because they're attempting to make nationalism and white nationalism synonymous- and based on the OP, it's working.The response should not be to embrace the white nationalism moniker. That's their goal They want you to accept all that baggage. It should be to continue pointing out that nationalism and white nationalism aren't the same thing. If not you're just falling right in the trap.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25233 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:39 pm to
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So what? Use a dictionary. White is an adjective. Nationalist is a word that stands on its own.



That is just not historically correct. But hey, you go out there and tell people you are a proud White Nationalist. Do you.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:41 pm to
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Nah, that’s not what the term means.
Yet that is exactly the extrapolation the press uses to attach the term to Trump.

What is a nationalist?
A white nationalist can be nothing other than a nationalist who is white. It is not even debatable.
So again, what is a nationalist?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:47 pm to
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A white nationalist can be nothing other than a nationalist who is white. It is not even debatable.
Keep fighting it. Great hill to die on.

“White Nationalist” does not mean what you wish it meant
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:54 pm to
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“White Nationalist” does not mean what you wish it meant
I don't "wish it to mean" a thing. I'm simply trying to get you to think. Tall task, but I'm trying.

So again . . . “White Nationalist” can indeed mean what you wish it meant. I'm simply asking you to consider why.

And to be crystal clear, “White Nationalist” as you wish it to mean, has nothing whatsoever to Trump. Yet the MSM has manipulated you to think it does. Pursue the definition of "nationalist" and you'll understand how you got manipulated.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75464 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:54 pm to
Anyone who uses the phrase "white nationalist" in earnest would also tell you that "patriot" is just as bad, if they're being honest with themselves. They'd never admit it, but that's a function of the depth of their intellectual dishonesty. The left is the biggest bunch of self-loathing, miserable fricks known to man.

They'll probably tell you about their preferred pronouns, too at which point the only appropriate response is to tell them to frick themselves.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8970 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:25 pm to
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intellectual dishonesty
We tend to be most comfortable criticizing others for faults we ourselves share
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:52 pm to
White Nationalists Supremacist


We not both gif
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:00 pm to
I am an American .....enough said
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:12 pm to
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I'm simply asking you to consider why.
or you could run to a safe-space away from this thread.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:38 pm to
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The "White" is an adjective placed before the word Nationalist.


This board...



If you’re just a nationalist why is the “white” necessary? Do you go around calling yourself a white LSU fan?
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:44 pm to
No one made it necessary except the left, who sought to demonize the word, just like they do with everything else

Mis-characterize, get the proggy sheep riled up, now it's racism.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78350 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:48 pm to
There are white nationalist and White Nationalists.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:05 pm to
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No one made it necessary except the left, who sought to demonize the word, just like they do with everything else


“White nationalist” was a rebranding concept by white supremacists that was clearly effective to the point that we have OPs like this and follow up posts like yours. Congrats!!!
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:57 pm to
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I'm simply trying to get you to
quote:

Pursue
Nah. I don’t have to do anything. You’re the one uncomfortable with something.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:05 am to
These “dictionary” threads are the best rationalization threads. To summarize:

It’s only the confused violent people who don’t understand what the term truly means. But there is nothing wrong with “pure” white nationalism. So don’t blame the white nationalists, blame the crazies who only think they understand white nationalism.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79388 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:07 am to
White nationalist is what white supremacists started branding themselves as because of the negative association that came from being a supremacist. The KKK consider themselves white nationalists.
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