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White nationalism?? What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?

Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:40 pm
Ok, as I appreciate it, nationalism, by itself, is not a bad thing. Pride in one's country is ok. White nationalism, on the other hand, is apparently a very bad thing, as it is defined as an ideology that wants the white man to be on top and above all other races. Where I get confused is where somebody accuses somebody of being a white nationalist. I'm a white guy, and I suppose I'm a nationalist (I do believe in America 1st!!) But, I can't say I'm a "white nationalist"...because I don't favor the white race over others. So..even though I'm white and a nationalist, I'm not a white nationalist. Identity politics is so damned confusing... What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:41 pm to
What about black nationalists?

What about all the hispanic nationalists?

What about native Americans that love their culture?




Why does whitey get to have all the fun?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:42 pm to
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What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?


A racist.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:43 pm to
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White nationalism, on the other hand, is apparently a very bad thing, as it is defined as an ideology that wants the white man to be on top and above all other races.


Who defined it that way?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:43 pm to
It's just another term to demonize white people who push back at the idea of giving away their sovereignty to a foreign, un-elected, unaccountable bureaucracy
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:43 pm to
A white nationalist is not " an ideology that wants the white man to be on top and above all other races".

A white nationalist is someone who wants traditionally white majority countries to remain white majority countries.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:44 pm to
A made up term to denigrate white people.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35496 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:46 pm to
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What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?
In that case I just use plain old 'nationalist' to avoid confusion the same as I would do for a nationalist who just happens to be black. I would not refer to him as a 'black nationalist' because that brings to mind groups like the Nation of Islam or the Black Israelites to a lot of people.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:47 pm to
It's a term used by the left to try and link nationalism to racism. There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting your own country first.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:49 pm to
Ethno-nationalism is just another form of collectivism, which I hate.

I remember the days when we embraced individualism, wish it would return
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35496 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:53 pm to
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Ethno-nationalism is just another form of collectivism, which I hate.
Agreed although nationalism by itself isn't inherently negative.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:56 pm to
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Agreed although nationalism by itself isn't inherently negative.


I agree, but guess it depends upon the degree to which it's taken.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35496 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:58 pm to
It does have a tendency to go too far.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:06 pm to
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What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?


quote:

white and a nationalist,


You answered your own question
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:06 pm to
Progressives see chanting "USA" as "problematic"
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35496 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:08 pm to
Hell, many see the flag as problematic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:09 pm to
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What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?


A nationalist

"White nationalist" has a different meaning, though the media seems to be unaware.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:10 pm to
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What do you call a nationalist who just happens to be white?



A Nationalist. Why would race be relevant? Do you refer to yourself as a White LSU fan?
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:12 pm to
I saw NIH pointed out that the DNC didn't have American flags at their 2016 convention until the media pointed it out
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23720 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 3:15 pm to
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A white nationalist is not " an ideology that wants the white man to be on top and above all other races".

A white nationalist is someone who wants traditionally white majority countries to remain white majority countries.


Is this supposed to be some kind of defense of white nationalism?
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