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re: White Liberal Males: Please explain your affiliation to me?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:40 pm to Blaeke
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:40 pm to Blaeke
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They view conservatives as unintelligent, uncaring, and archaic through the stereotypes of the various media that they consume
I view you that way from interacting with you here, mainly.
But I'm multi-racial.
The guy who said "Education" got the biggest part of it. Not being in fields that are in decline, not feeling threatened by a diversifying country. Not going to lose status or position or income because of not being so dependent simply on being "White" and "Male."
Being able to actually board airplanes will be a big plus, too!
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:42 pm
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:42 pm to JesusQuintana
Coworker of mine told me he is a liberal "because I care about people."
My immediate question was if he thought I didn't care about people. He scoffed and had no answer.
My immediate question was if he thought I didn't care about people. He scoffed and had no answer.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:45 pm to Kevin Garvey
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Coworker of mine told me he is a liberal "because I care about people."
My immediate question was if he thought I didn't care about people. He scoffed and had no answer.
Character rehabilitation. There was a time in his life when he didn't care about/for others as much as he should.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:55 pm to RaleighTiger
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They view conservatives as unintelligent, uncaring, and archaic through the stereotypes of the various media that they consume and thus try to take the opposite positions as much as possible.
This is definitely the thought after Trumps 4 years. Add delusional, gullible, etc.
If you look at a vote map, the blue votes come from large metro areas where highly educated people go for high paying jobs. Also the coastlines where people with money go to live. Education is better in blue states. Healthcare is better. Real Estate costs and Taxes are higher because they don’t want you there.
Red votes come from rural areas. Lower education standards. Lower cost of living. Much higher rates of obesity and other health issues. Evangelical Christians who see only good and evil with no grey area. It’s either right according to their interpretation or it’s completely evil. Once they take a stance on an issue that they connect to their beliefs, you’re an evil person with ideals of world destruction and mass pedophilia if you don’t agree. Science isn’t taken seriously. Etc. Etc.
Now you know...
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:58 pm to WhitewaterDawg
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Their women are the dominants.
This is the truest statement ever made on this board
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:07 pm to JesusQuintana
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White Liberal Males
They remind me of the German dude that agreed to be killed and eaten by that other German dude.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:19 pm to robbykidd
Taxes are high because they don’t want us there. That’s cute.
Healthcare is better? Nah. You just have more people crammed into a smaller area which means more money for hospitals and doctors which therefore attracts those things. It has nothing to do with your liberal greatness.
Always love the science argument from a party that can’t even identify genders.
The statement about Christians is true about both sides of politics. You have zero respect for anyone’s views here or outside of your liberal bubble. But you degrade Christianity because well...that’s what people have done for thousands of years. You expect Christians to not push views on others while simultaneously pushing every view on them.
Liberals aren’t happy in general. There are many things that point to this. You are overly involved in politics because you’re always looking to change everything. You aren’t happy with your life as it is. You aren’t happy with the way others are living. Conservatives tend to keep to themselves and their families because that’s what makes most of them happy.
You constantly push your views on others and censor opposing views because you’re insecure about your morality. You look to your liberal overlords like professors and news anchors to make sure you’re doing it right. You endlessly project behaviors and ideas on the other side, again because of your insecurity and need to control others.
In short, mind your own damn business and you wouldn’t be so hated.
Healthcare is better? Nah. You just have more people crammed into a smaller area which means more money for hospitals and doctors which therefore attracts those things. It has nothing to do with your liberal greatness.
Always love the science argument from a party that can’t even identify genders.
The statement about Christians is true about both sides of politics. You have zero respect for anyone’s views here or outside of your liberal bubble. But you degrade Christianity because well...that’s what people have done for thousands of years. You expect Christians to not push views on others while simultaneously pushing every view on them.
Liberals aren’t happy in general. There are many things that point to this. You are overly involved in politics because you’re always looking to change everything. You aren’t happy with your life as it is. You aren’t happy with the way others are living. Conservatives tend to keep to themselves and their families because that’s what makes most of them happy.
You constantly push your views on others and censor opposing views because you’re insecure about your morality. You look to your liberal overlords like professors and news anchors to make sure you’re doing it right. You endlessly project behaviors and ideas on the other side, again because of your insecurity and need to control others.
In short, mind your own damn business and you wouldn’t be so hated.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:27 pm to robbykidd
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you look at a vote map, the blue votes come from large metro areas where highly educated people go for high paying jobs.
You’ve never been to an inner city. Typical for a white Dem. You’ve never interacted with all those highly educated urban Dem voters.
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Science isn’t taken seriously.
You believe a human with a penis can be a woman merely by declaring so.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:34 pm to redeye
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but there is nothing a liberal hates more than a white male so how do you justify your affiliation?
Only in your head.
As a liberal, do you vote Dem? The problem is, it’s not yet gotten through your head if you still vote Dem. Identity/social politics may not be important to you, but they’re paramount for your party. You can hold on to the memories of bygone days when Dems represented blue collar guys and unions and talked about economic issues but that party is long gone. A Bill Clinton speech from 1992 will sound a lot like a Trump speech, if you’re being honest with yourself. But no more. They—todays liberal leaders—view everything through the racial lens, and they always see you as the privileged racist enemy.
My god how do you not see this yet?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:34 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:35 pm to robbykidd
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robbykidd
But you "educated" idiots always clamor for handouts.
What does that say about your "education"?
An intelligent person can adapt to and overcome adversity.
My guess is you come from a broken home with no father figure in the house.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:38 pm to AUTigerking
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Taxes are high because they don’t want us there. That’s cute.
Healthcare is better? Nah. You just have more people crammed into a smaller area which means more money for hospitals and doctors which therefore attracts those things. It has nothing to do with your liberal greatness.
Always love the science argument from a party that can’t even identify genders.
The statement about Christians is true about both sides of politics. You have zero respect for anyone’s views here or outside of your liberal bubble. But you degrade Christianity because well...that’s what people have done for thousands of years. You expect Christians to not push views on others while simultaneously pushing every view on them.
Liberals aren’t happy in general. There are many things that point to this. You are overly involved in politics because you’re always looking to change everything. You aren’t happy with your life as it is. You aren’t happy with the way others are living. Conservatives tend to keep to themselves and their families because that’s what makes most of them happy.
You constantly push your views on others and censor opposing views because you’re insecure about your morality. You look to your liberal overlords like professors and news anchors to make sure you’re doing it right. You endlessly project behaviors and ideas on the other side, again because of your insecurity and need to control others.
In short, mind your own damn business and you wouldn’t be so hated.
This is very well said
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:42 pm to Lee B
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The guy who said "Education" got the biggest part of it. Not being in fields that are in decline, not feeling threatened by a diversifying country. Not going to lose status or position or income because of not being so dependent simply on being "White" and "Male."
I don’t know anyone that feels this way. I can’t think of a single republicanism know that feels threatened by diversity. It is the alarming methods of the application that is concerning. I haven’t met a single republican that believes that have a certain type of status or position for being white. The issues raised are due to the clear social attack of white males. So if you are talking about feeling threatened due to being born a white male, then yea it is pretty clear white males are being demonized.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:49 pm to robbykidd
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Red votes come from rural areas. Lower education standards. Lower cost of living. Much higher rates of obesity and other health issues. Evangelical Christians who see only good and evil with no grey area. It’s either right according to their interpretation or it’s completely evil. Once they take a stance on an issue that they connect to their beliefs, you’re an evil person with ideals of world destruction and mass pedophilia if you don’t agree. Science isn’t taken seriously. Etc. Etc.
I'm sure you would insert your children right into the Chicago, Memphis, etc. public school systems.
If not I guess you pay six figures for a high school diploma. That would fall in line with your higher cost of living way of life which tells me you have no concept of value or money. This refutes supposed high education standards.
Rebelling against religion as basis for political views also refutes high standards for education. I know this from growing up in a small Jewish, Southern community. The Bible Belt culture just taught me to take religion not as serious as those around me.
Most of you have problems with Christians, not Conservatives/Republicans/Trump Supporters
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:03 pm to Lee B
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Not going to lose status or position or income because of not being so dependent simply on being "White" and "Male."
Nobody feels this way. This is another liberal fantasy, that white guys just walk around reveling in their skin color and everything in life is given to them bc of that skin color.
You’d actually be shocked and disappointed if you’d understand how little white people even think about race. The vast majority don’t give any shits that you’re multiracial. We just don’t care.
Maybe that’s what bothers you.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:03 pm to 93and99
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But you "educated" idiots always clamor for handouts.
What does that say about your "education"?
An intelligent person can adapt to and overcome adversity.
My guess is you come from a broken home with no father figure in the house.
My wife and I are both left of center. Both have terminal professional degrees from a T10 grad school. High 6 figure household income and pay for far more handouts than we will ever take. Both from stable single marriage households where all 4 parents held terminal professional degrees.
This thread's stock opinion of a liberal is closer to that of a far-left progressive, no different from liberal sites that pretend every conservative is a white nationalist/supremacist missing most of their teeth and for whom a GED is just an aspirational choice for those that forgot where they came from.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:05 pm to 93and99
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But you "educated" idiots always clamor for handouts.
What does that say about your "education"?
He doesn’t believe black/brown people are capable of obtaining an ID. That’s how he views minority Dem voters. So much for education.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:07 pm to Obtuse1
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This thread's stock opinion of a liberal is closer to that of a far-left progressive,
Because those are the ones constantly cutting up on social media and in the streets, and it really seems like those are the ones making policy decisions in today’s Democratic Party.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:50 pm to biglego
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You can hold on to the memories of bygone days when Dems represented blue collar guys and unions and talked about economic issues but that party is long gone. A Bill Clinton speech from 1992 will sound a lot like a Trump speech, if you’re being honest with yourself.
You're right about the Dems mostly abandoning the working class... you're just excusing who is responsible for it.
A Bill Clinton speech did sound, economically, like a Trump speech. And Bill Clinton is the one that sold out to the US Chamber of Commerce and turned the Democratic Party into "Republicans, economically, who are SJWs." Younger and/or more progressive Dems - the ones you guys hate the most: Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Warren, AOC - are trying to reverse that... I support them in that, most veteran Dems are hooked on the campaign donations. It is the biggest inner-party fight... and the economic progressives will win, because of time and age. But people will call them Socialists.
Also, Clinton knew if Trump ran on that message he'd annihilate the GOP primary field, and that's why he talked him into finally actually running instead of just talking about it. Of course, he also thought Hillary would beat him in the general, and that didn't happen.
What did Trump actually do besides - like Clinton - give speeches about working people? The tariffs didn't work in America's favor because he didn't understand who pays them (still doesn't, apparently) or why they're usually used, which is to make domestic products cheaper... but we don't have domestic products for most of the stuff he put tariffs on so he just put a bunch of American manufacturers out of business when he made their raw materials unaffordable and caused retaliations in foreign markets that killed export sales for a lot of American companies.
Trump's tax breaks benefitted the Wealthy and Corporations, who aren't increasing their hiring. The stock market keeps soaring because it is mostly a make-believe world in that sector... companies buy back their own stock and make themselves worth millions more, using money from the Fed at low or no interest rates. He strong-armed the Fed into keeping interest rates as low as possible, which is slow suicide for when a recession really kicks in and you can't lower them any further... I've refinanced just what's left of the mortgage on my house so often in the past few years I've lost count because the rates keep diving so much it's worth it... from "wow, that's low" to "you're kidding me!"
Meanwhile, people were losing living wages jobs the entire time in the middle. The bottom was more screwed than ever... and that was before the COVID monkeywrench. He screwed American farmers with his trade war... and I mean just destroyed them, put the multi-generational family farm and dairy right out of business and on the auction block. And he tried to hide that with aide payments, but it wasn't enough to save the family businesses, just extra money for the corporate-run farms or the tax write-offs (like Devon Nunes's non-working, no equipment farm that makes no money).
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:55 pm to biglego
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They—todays liberal leaders—view everything through the racial lens, and they always see you as the privileged racist enemy.
My god how do you not see this yet?
Well, first I'll point out that you're talking about Democrats and not Liberals. And as long as I'm being technically accurate, I'll mention that I consider myself more of a Social Democrat, meaning that I support regulated capitalism with a strong safety net. I support Keynesian economics and think our nation went astray after we lost touch with FDR's New Deal policies, which were working well, regardless of stagflation.
This is what is important to me. Democrats make a big deal out of racism, misogyny and homophobia, while Republicans make a big deal out of atheism, marriage and abortion, to give a few examples. I know these are all very important issues, but as a "Liberal", I don't think they should be our main focus when choosing who will run our Government. I don't deny these issues, but rather that I recognize how each side uses them for cover for what some of you call the uniparty.
I've mentioned several times here that I don't think all of Trump's policies are bad. I get some of the things many here like about Trump. But I also think the loyalty to him is somewhat misguided, partly because I don't think he really cares about these issues, partly because I don't think he's qualified to address these issues and partly because his versions of these issues are wildly inaccurate, because they're intended to satisfy desperate pleas for answers to questions that conservative constituents don't understand or don't want to acknowledge.
Racism may be the rally cry for Democrats at the moment, but it doesn't define all Democrats, any more than Evangelicalism defines all Republicans.
Edit: I'd like to add that the USA has been ran by Neoliberals ever since Reagan, regardless of the party in control, because both parties have subscribed to Neoliberalism. That's been our big problem over recent decades, especially considering how Neoliberalism in the USA pretty much ignores the safety nets Neoliberalism claims to value. This is the ideology the uniparty claims to cheerish, even though they practice something more akin to classical liberalism, or laizze faire capitalism, which led us into the Great Depression.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 11:34 pm
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