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re: White House preparing for major narrative shift: sudden deaths = Long COVID, not the vaxx.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:18 pm to AmishSamurai
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:18 pm to AmishSamurai
For those who aren't fans of literature ...
quote:
When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.
Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:18 pm to TigerDoc
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Just curious - if multiple large studies show worse health outcomes in unvaccinated people than vaccinated, would you consider it rational for people to choose to be vaccinated if they are trying to promote their own health
How many young, healthy people would have been saved with the shot?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:19 pm to TigerDoc
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Just curious - if multiple large studies show worse health outcomes in unvaccinated people than vaccinated, would you consider it rational for people to choose to be vaccinated if they are trying to promote their own health (set aside group identity values for a moment)?
Absolutely, if done credibly by credible people/organization. But that’s a consistent problem with anything related to Covid.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:19 pm to TigerDoc
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Yes.
You’ve proven once again in this thread that you’re a truly vile piece of shite, and should have your licensed revoked if you are a real doctor.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:21 pm to TigerDoc
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he initial stage 3 trial results presented by Pfizer said that the vaccine was 95% effective in preventing Covid. Was that accurate?
Yes.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:22 pm to GumboPot
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Right now it seems like a very soft, plastic and ambiguous term to fit almost anything like general malaise.
Wouldn’t such a thing be wildly convenient and ripe for exploitation by an illegitimate bureaucracy?
If the indemnification of the “vaccine” manufacturers that is required to purchase this poison or the sealing of records until after everyone currently involved is dead cant convince people that this is all bullshite, nothing will.
“But the media keeps saying...”
frick me. Is everyone blind and dumb?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:23 pm to AmishSamurai
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We've reached the apex of Lewis Carroll's Humpty Dumpty world ... Hang on Alice
I appreciate the follow up post.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:24 pm to Open Your Eyes
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You’ve proven once again in this thread that you’re a truly vile piece of shite
This individual isn't that bad. Just ignorant (see seatbelt analogy) ...
Their cognitive bias will be cognitive dissonance as more evidence (of fraud, malfeasance, correlation, etc) comes out ...
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:26 pm to GumboPot
Yes, a digression. When empirical facts get politicized everybody appeals to science, but science is hard to interpret and depending on your priors you may talk yourself into beliefs without much evidence based on things like single studies. People like to believe they update their beliefs based on evidence, but they more often base beliefs more on trust than evidence. So it’s generally good to use proxies to vet evidence and track these proxies over time and weed out those with poor track records.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:26 pm to Open Your Eyes
Make an argument, baw.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:30 pm to TigerDoc
Dowd used to be with Goldman Sachs, IIRC.
He is a regular on War Room.
Comes across as very smart and credible.
He is a regular on War Room.
Comes across as very smart and credible.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:32 pm to TigerDoc
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Make an argument, baw.
My argument that you’re still a vile piece of shite is you:
- made an unbelievably stupid analogy comparing covid shots to seatbelts
- failed at trying to obfuscate with irrelevant clinical trial discussion when called out on your unbelievably stupid analogy
- continue to lie about the effectiveness of the covid shot
Where’s your argument that you aren’t a vile piece of shite?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:33 pm to David_DJS
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Absolutely, if done credibly by credible people/organization. But that’s a consistent problem with anything related to Covid.
Not just COVID. What science would the median poster here consider credible these days?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:35 pm to TigerDoc
But this thread is about none of that. This is about a Wall Street guy that manages billions of dollars of other people’s money and has a fiduciary to those clients. And because of that he has access to a lot of data and sources. A few of these sources happen to be within the WH and he is just communicating to Bannon what he is hearing in terms of a potential narrative shift. I believe him and Bannon go back as friends when Bannon was at GS and Ed was at Blackrock.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:35 pm to AmishSamurai
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This individual isn't that bad. Just ignoran
This individual has an established history of lying about anything covid related while purporting himself as a medical expert. It can be and is true that he’s both a vile piece of shite and ignorant.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:36 pm to Open Your Eyes
I assume you believe that trial was fabricated.
Humor a vile doctor. What obfuscations do the evil public health experts use to explain the differences in outcomes since the trial?
Humor a vile doctor. What obfuscations do the evil public health experts use to explain the differences in outcomes since the trial?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:36 pm to TigerDoc
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What science would the median poster here consider credible these days?
Science is a method; it’s always credible. Scientists are people, and they are not.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:36 pm to TigerDoc
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Yes. What argument do public health experts use to continue to recommend the vaccine despite more transmissible strains with more immune-escape?
So you, as a doc, are saying the vaccine is 95% effective in preventing transmission?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:37 pm to GumboPot
And you think people should make health decisions based on that instead of medical research?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:38 pm to BBONDS25
Bonds, you can do better. Try again.
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