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re: “White Devils”—FBI Records Show Muhammad Ali’s Racist Mosque Tirades

Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:36 am to
Posted by pcolatiger28
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:36 am to
Regardless of the time you lived in or lived through, it doesn't warrant hate. When you're wrong you're wrong. Deflecting by listing other shitty people doesn't take away from who he was. He hated white people, was racist by the definition of a racist, and overall didn't seem like a good dude. I dont care about Bush, Cheney, or any other knucklehead that is brought up in comparison, it doesn't make it right. Just because he was a great boxer doesn't make him immune to the same criticism we all receive. I'm sure there are plenty of black people that grew up in that era who didn't HATE whites. There are also many whites who didn't HATE blacks. IMO, Ali was just a great boxer and not a great man.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:36 am to
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They're doing a great job of explaining why we should have much lower expectations for black people
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:38 am to
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They're doing a great job of explaining why we should have much lower expectations for black people
if I told my children every day that they had a million excuses for why they can't succeed and that the only remedy for those excuses West for people other than themselves to modify their behavior. Otherwise my children would have no chance of success. I shouldn't be very surprised if my children fail
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:38 am to
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This Thread can be summed up quite simply. LSU saint and strong safety are exhibits A and B of why blacks are still failing in America and will continue to do so.




You want us to take the blame for what white sumpremacy has purposely done for black and that ain't gonna happen.

Whites rigged just about every system against us and now people like you expect blacks to succeed in a system that purposely ensures failure.

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All of the rationalization in the world won't change that reality until blacks choose to change it for themselves.



Reality is you know nothing of our reality. How can the oppressor tell the oppressed how to be successful?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:39 am to
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You want us to take the blame for what white sumpremacy has purposely done for black and that ain't gonna happen.


Yet you're unwittingly arguing for white supremacy.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:40 am to
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Yall are fricking proof the black man can thrive in America
yeah but I know their type. They need to continue to be down with the struggle. Being a victim has become part of the black identity.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:40 am to
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You asked a question and I answered with regard to how I feel due to my own personal bias


FIFY

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have multiple children out of wedlock as a teenager with little education or employable skills. It's a recipe for poverty and strife, regardless the color of ones skin


Do you agree or disagree?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65779 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:41 am to
Ali was a good friend of my first cousin and his wife. They would go out all the time, spend time with each other on trips, and really got along as good friends. My cousin is as white as me, which is pretty blindingly white. People, one on one may just be different, but my family interacted with his like one of the family. Maybe a small case study, but just wanted to add this from a personal level.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:41 am to
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I told my children every day that they had a million excuses for why they can't succeed and that the only remedy for those excuses West for people other than themselves to modify their behavior. Otherwise my children would have no chance of success. I shouldn't be very surprised if my children fail


Correct. Ole Hornets seems to prefer the status quo
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:42 am to
The success of the Vietnamese refugee blows up any argument they have.

They came to this country around the same time Jim crow ended and they didn't even speak the fricking language.

Now their children have surpassed the average black household

Man up and stop being a victim.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:42 am to
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You want us to take the blame for what white sumpremacy has purposely done for black and that ain't gonna happen.
I don't give a frick what you choose to do. I'm merely pointing out that you're wasting your time on shite you can't control. Unless you have a time machine starting with a frick forward and stop making excuses

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Reality is you know nothing of our reality. How can the oppressor tell the oppressed how to be successful
life's about choices man. You can either go through life blaming everyone else for your failures or you can say frick those people and succeed anyways
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:43 am to
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Arent you an engineer? And a family man?



Yes and Yes

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Yall are fricking proof the black man can thrive in America.


For every one of me there are probably 500 that are the total opposite. It takes a lot to break the cycle in which black people as a whole are in.

Answer me this question. From a probability of success stand point would you rather be born black or white? Same abilities however different skin color.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:43 am to
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Ali was a good friend of my first cousin and his wife. They would go out all the time, spend time with each other on trips, and really got along as good friends. My cousin is as white as me, which is pretty blindingly white. People, one on one may just be different, but my family interacted with his like one of the family. Maybe a small case study, but just wanted to add this from a personal level


Yep this thread is worthless. By all accounts Ali was a good dude. I really dont care what he said in some mosque
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60592 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:44 am to
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Answer me this question. From a probability of success stand point would you rather be born black or white? Same abilities however different skin color.

Black if everything else is equal. It is way easier to get into good schools as a minority.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:45 am to
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Answer me this question. From a probability of success stand point would you rather be born black or white?
I'd rather be white but not for the reasons you think. I'd rather be white because I be surrounded by people constantly telling me that if I apply my abilities I will succeed rather than surrounded by people constantly telling me that regardless of my abilities I'm unlikely to succeed
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:45 am to
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takes a lot to break the cycle in which black people as a whole are in.



Most black people are relatively successful. Making excuses d does nothing for the unsuccessful ones.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:45 am to
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Yet you're unwittingly arguing for white supremacy.



No I am not I am saying that white supremacy was successful at promoting white supremacy and disenfranchising blacks. This is a fact.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:46 am to
I'm still waiting for somebody to take your crack in my Sports question regarding blacks
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39833 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:46 am to
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Regardless of the time you lived in or lived through, it doesn't warrant hate.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111302 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:46 am to
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Answer me this question. From a probability of success stand point would you rather be born black or white? Same abilities however different skin color.
I dont give a frick. If I had my same parents, they would have whipped my arse any time I felt sorry for myself no matter what color we were

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For every one of me there are probably 500 that are the total opposite. It takes a lot to break the cycle in which black people as a whole are in.
Answer me this, who has a better chance to succeed. A kid that is told stop being a pussy, you can be anything you want to be.

Or, a kid who is told it isnt your fault, and likely you wont ever succeed no matter what you do because "they" wont let you?
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