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re: Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine

Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:49 am to
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157664 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:49 am to
Clearly you have no shame. Most progs don't though.

Are you at least aware that you talking about right and wrong while stealing is hilarious?

Surely you see it. I hope. Otherwise... Yikes
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86156 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:49 am to
No . That’s not how logic and honest discourse works. My words mean what they say, not what your weak Straw Man would prefer they say. I said your post history is one of insults towards Trump voters and Never Trump rants and assertions. All of which over time, were proven incorrect and/or fell completely flat. So since you have an abysmal record of accuracy and appear to be hyperventilating when you post, I choose to remain skeptical of anything you say.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:49 am to
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You are making shite up.


As far as I know that is conjecture. Not that it matters.. funds are fungible
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Are you at least aware that you talking about right and wrong while stealing is hilarious?

Surely you see it. I hope. Otherwise... Yikes


Allegedly stealing*

What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:52 am to
Here is the line that all this hubbub is about.

“investigations of corruption cases, which inhibited the interactions between Ukraine and USA.”

Seriously, who has a problem with that statement?

Allegedly from the Ukraine transcript of the conversation

This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:52 am to
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What happened to innocent until proven guilty?


Justice Kavanaugh.
Posted by half cajun
Katy, TX
Member since Sep 2007
1971 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:52 am to
Like I said you can’t or won’t answer the simple question. All the words you posted don’t change that fact.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:54 am to
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Like I said you can’t or won’t answer the simple question. All the words you posted don’t change that fact


I did.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47548 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:54 am to
What do you want him to say?

You repeating the same line about military aid doesn't make it less wrong.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:55 am to
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No . That’s not how logic and honest discourse works. My words mean what they say, not what your weak Straw Man would prefer they say. I said your post history is one of insults towards Trump voters and Never Trump rants and assertions. All of which over time, were proven incorrect and/or fell completely flat. So since you have an abysmal record of accuracy and appear to be hyperventilating when you post, I choose to remain skeptical of anything you say.



And he still won't provide sources to the assertion that President Trump used military resources as a cudgel over Ukraine to continue with the Biden investigation.

After that step is established the next step is to determine if that action is unlawful. I doubt that it is. It is in fact seeking justice not obstructing it.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90449 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:55 am to
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You repeating the same line about military aid doesn't make it less wrong.
Half thinks it would be better if it were humanitarian aid.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:56 am to
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It is in fact seeking justice not obstructing it.


It’s unwinding Obama era corruption
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47548 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:57 am to
They are saying that we can't investigate presidential candidates because it could affect elections.


How fricking delicious is that irony?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:58 am to
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Half thinks it would be better if it were humanitarian aid.


Half is just making up shite. He has no clue what the president said on the phone. Only Sue Gordon at the DNI who was listening in on his private conversations (i.e., spying) knows.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:58 am to
quote:

They are saying that we can't investigate presidential candidates because it could affect elections.


How fricking delicious is that irony?


Posted by half cajun
Katy, TX
Member since Sep 2007
1971 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:59 am to
I said “IF”. If it can be proven would you have a problem. Surprisingly many answers on here have been that it wouldn’t be a problem.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90449 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 8:59 am to
quote:

They are saying that we can't investigate presidential candidates because it could affect elections.


How fricking delicious is that irony?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47548 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:00 am to
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“investigations of corruption cases, which inhibited the interactions between Ukraine and USA.”


Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157664 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:00 am to
Need me to dig up the post where you admitted it?

Goodness me you progs...




Fungible money...

Planned parenthood?
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86156 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:01 am to
I can’t Force you to be intellectually honest . But I will suggest you consider you giving it a whirl . It is it’s own reward.

That said, carry on with the chin-drooling Never Trumpism as it amuses me to no end. It really is the gift that keeps on giving. There is something poetic about watching The Celebrity Apprentice wreck grown men over and over again.
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