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re: While Putin doubles down in Ukraine, his gas gambit is failing
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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To be sure, LNG is expensive and consumers and businesses are understandably concerned about skyrocketing energy costs. But this is a separate question from whether there is enough gas for Europe to fully replace Russian supply.
It's FINE guys! We've got plenty of gas and no one is going to run out.
You will pay out the arse for it of course, but that is a separate issue.
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So the only losers from this gas blackmail are Putin and his enablers.
Attention everyone paying multiple times more for energy than you were last year - Putin and his enablers are the only losers here!
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
The cut off of natural gas from them by Europe, and the ensuing removal of that natural gas from worldwide supply(while they continue to sell every drop of oil they can produce) is what is costing all of us billions.
The reaction to the action is punishing Europe and threatens the global financial system.
This is the start of WW1 all over again. Everybody has to look like a tough guy. Screw the peasants.
The reaction to the action is punishing Europe and threatens the global financial system.
This is the start of WW1 all over again. Everybody has to look like a tough guy. Screw the peasants.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Oh boy ...
Europe no longer needs these supplies
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:59 pm to LSUBadger
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The cut off of natural gas from them by Europe, and the ensuing removal of that natural gas from worldwide supply(while they continue to sell every drop of oil they can produce) is what is costing all of us billions.
The reaction to the action is punishing Europe and threatens the global financial system.
So it's not the illegal, unprovoked invasion? It's the response
This is all on Russia, bubba. But-for the invasion, the transaction costs and petro price wouldn't be so jacked up.
That's why the West is so invested in this conflict. These sorts of irrational disruptions have to be dealt with to dissuade other bad actors in the future.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:00 pm to Lightning
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You will pay out the arse for it of course, but that is a separate issue.
As I've been arguing on here for some time. Russia's invasion is costing the world a LOT more than what little we've sent Ukraine in aid.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
paywall for me SFP
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Do you think its a buyers market? Thats a retarded statement
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is exactly what I mean when I say Russia's invasion is costing the world hundreds of billions of dollars.
The world isn't sending any money to Ukraine.
Politicians who will eventually have their hand out for kickbacks are sending money to Ukraine.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:03 pm to Strannix
Doesn't look like it.
CNBC.
Reuters.
Now, Russia is in trouble if it has nobody to sell to. But, somebody on here said it is easily redirected. I have no idea if that's true.
quote:
German minister criticizes U.S. over ‘astronomical’ natural gas prices
CNBC.
quote:
Germany girds for gas supply pain, targets $93 billion price relief plan
Reuters.
Now, Russia is in trouble if it has nobody to sell to. But, somebody on here said it is easily redirected. I have no idea if that's true.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:03 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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OP literally cannot stop sucking Zelensky’s dick
This
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:03 pm to idlewatcher
LINK
Un-paywalled.
You've really got to read this because this guy is not at all biased.
Un-paywalled.
You've really got to read this because this guy is not at all biased.
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The energy crunch should be no threat to unified support for Ukraine, let alone Europeans’ comfort this winter, despite Putin’s machinations.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Putin, by contrast, will be losing what we conservatively estimate to be $100bn from lost gas sales annually.
And waits until the West further dislocates themselves from fossil fuels while his reserves grow in value. The horror
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:05 pm to Lightning
I don't think the quoted language shows bias. Those are the variables in conflict (as discussed on this board constantly).
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:War is the failure of diplomacy. Russia warned NATO. NATO and Ukraine ignored the warning. There was shite for diplomacy on either side. So we have war. No NATO expansion = No war. PERIOD! So no, it's not all on Russia.
This is all on Russia, bubba.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:08 pm to NC_Tigah
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War is the failure of diplomacy.
Only if you have reasonable actors at the table.
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No NATO expansion = No war. PERIOD!
Uh, you're forgetting, again, the real international organization Russia fears.
And the land Russia wanted.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:how long have you been in the tank for the criminals known as Khazarians?
SlowFlowPro
Russia is abiding by well known 'great-power' convention
so the question may actually be how log have you been in the tank for obama-kerry-biden-nuland and their treacherous adventuring in the former Khazar-empire with a VERY problematic CIA?
It was the Khazarians who slaughtered nearly 70 million Russians
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
“But Russia has muh China, India, North Korea and Iran who will bail them out and stick it to the West!” -the poliboard
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
So is Hillary and Obama...just ask those killed during the Arab Spring.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is not all on Russia and you damn well know it
Zlelensky and Biden in November of 2021 had a press conference and Biden talked about them eventually joining NATO. About 120 days later we have is a land war in Europe. Was this another Biden gaffe? Probably. But at the end of the day; a guy who has been telling us for a couple decades not to do it decided to act.
Kind of like Kennedy acted when nukes started popping up in Cuba. Let’s just ignore the fact that NATO had just prior placed our nukes in Turkey? Seems like Kennedy was showing his inner Putin there
The world is defined by shades of grey. You seem to have a very juvenile perspective that complicated issues should be seen in black and white.
Zlelensky and Biden in November of 2021 had a press conference and Biden talked about them eventually joining NATO. About 120 days later we have is a land war in Europe. Was this another Biden gaffe? Probably. But at the end of the day; a guy who has been telling us for a couple decades not to do it decided to act.
Kind of like Kennedy acted when nukes started popping up in Cuba. Let’s just ignore the fact that NATO had just prior placed our nukes in Turkey? Seems like Kennedy was showing his inner Putin there
The world is defined by shades of grey. You seem to have a very juvenile perspective that complicated issues should be seen in black and white.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:13 pm to sta4ever
It really is perplexing how triggered people are about anything that could be bad news for Russia
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