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re: Where does Robert E Lee rank as a military tactician
Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:50 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:50 pm to Ace Midnight
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had the 20th Maine broken on Little Round Top and the Army of the Potomac been routed
I want to disabuse people of this notion once and for all. Little Round Top wasn't even the most important action of the battle's second day. Of all the hot spots that flared up around Gettysburg that day, Little Round Top involved the fewest amount of troops and the fewest casualties. Had the 20th Maine broke and ran for the rear, you had precisely one Confederate regiment (the 15th Alabama) that was in position to exploit the breakthrough. That's 250 men that would have just exhausted almost all of their ammunition in their battle against the 20th Maine. The Union army had about 2,000 men in the immediate vicinity with an additional 20,000 on the way.
The charge of the 1st Minnesota, at least in my opinion, was far more important to keeping the Confederates from breaking the Union line on July 2. Read up on them. What they did was un-freaking-believable, especially when you realize that they knew what they were being asked to do was essentially a suicide mission.
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:53 pm to AggieHank86
Lee can take a back seat to Johnston, Jackson and Forrest.
I’d rank him #4 on the Confederate side
I’d rank him #4 on the Confederate side
Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:46 pm to RollTide1987
How about Wright's Brigade (3rd Georgia) from Anderson's Division? They DID break through all the way to Cemetery Ridge, but no support was forthcoming and they could not stay there they finally got pushed back.
Posey and Mahone were supposed to move up to his left in support, but did not. If they had...it could have gotten hot.
Posey and Mahone were supposed to move up to his left in support, but did not. If they had...it could have gotten hot.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:54 pm to mattloc
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Where does Robert E Lee rank as a military tactician
He isn't allowed to be ranked anymore..duh
Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:56 pm to Adam4LSU
In my community we still have Robert Edward Lee Elementary School. And we will continue to have it.
Any protesters that come here to attempt to disrupt classes will get locked up with a swiftness, if the police beat the elementary school mothers with their claws out to the campus.
Any protesters that come here to attempt to disrupt classes will get locked up with a swiftness, if the police beat the elementary school mothers with their claws out to the campus.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:05 pm to antibarner
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How about Wright's Brigade (3rd Georgia) from Anderson's Division? They DID break through all the way to Cemetery Ridge, but no support was forthcoming and they could not stay there they finally got pushed back.
And that's why Lee could have never won the Battle of Gettysburg right here. Lee had fewer men and was occupying a line twice as long as his opponent. Any support that Lee could throw into a breakthrough had to come from miles away while Meade could plug a gap within minutes.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:13 pm to KillTheGophers
He thought he shelled the union into oblivion
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:16 pm to RollTide1987
This support was not miles away. It was immediately to his left. They did not push on as he did, and the rest is history.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 7:34 pm to mattloc
Probably the greatest general and honorable individual in American history. He saved America from guerilla warfare after the war. Unfortunately modern history distorts the truth.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:24 am to antibarner
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This support was not miles away. It was immediately to his left. They did not push on as he did, and the rest is history.
Three brigades were not going to make the difference. In order for that support to reach Wright, the brigades of Posey and Mahone would have had to have crossed right in front of massed batteries of artillery. It's one of the reasons why Mahone straight up refused orders from Anderson to advance. He knew the attack would have been futile.
Besides...the situation Wright found himself in was similar to what Meade had endured almost seven months earlier when he pierced Stonewall Jackson's line at the Battle of Fredericksburg. 40,000 Federals were within supporting distance and could have cracked Lee's line wide open. Franklin refused to send support Meade's way, save for another division under John Gibbon, and the Union forces under Meade were eventually forced out by reinforcements ordered to fill the breach by Jackson.
Anderson's failed attack was karma.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 3:26 am
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:26 am to SirWinston
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A damn sight better than those butchers US Grant and Sherman.
In Grant's defense he was drunk AF 24/7 according to most historians
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