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Where do States go when Trump says Stay At Home no longer in place

Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:43 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38280 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:43 am
But the Liberal Governors don’t?
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:50 am to
Even if POTUS lifts the fed mandate the local govs won’t do it. They are power drunk right now and will drag this out waiting for the wave that may never come. Even if numbers start declining they will drag it out “ just to be sure”.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:54 am to
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Even if numbers start declining they will drag it out “ just to be sure”.


and the economy of those states will suffer. Will be interesting to see if those governors are reelected if their economy stagnates while surrounding state's prosper.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:56 am to
Well it's up to the Federal government to back up states. Not mandate directives for them. It's ultimately up to the states to decide for themselves. As they should. Let them either respread or grow infections, or nothing big happens and their economies pick back up.
Posted by PrinceVegeta
Fourchon Beach
Member since Nov 2014
474 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:37 am to
State’s rights. They can do what they want.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16815 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:37 am to
Butt Pirate Polis will never let go of this power trip. I’m moving up to Wyoming to get a governor who gives a frick about his own economy and people
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2512 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:46 am to
Sorry to hear that, we’ll really miss you
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:48 am to
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State’s rights. They can do what they want.


No they can't. They're getting away with it at the moment, but no most of this would come to an end very quickly if DOJ/FBI moved in.

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(a) Whoever in any way or degree obstructs, delays, or affects commerce or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by robbery or extortion or attempts or conspires so to do, or commits or threatens physical violence to any person or property in furtherance of a plan or purpose to do anything in violation of this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (b) As used in this section— (1) The term “robbery” means the unlawful taking or obtaining of personal property from the person or in the presence of another, against his will, by means of actual or threatened force, or violence, or fear of injury, immediate or future, to his person or property, or property in his custody or possession, or the person or property of a relative or member of his family or of anyone in his company at the time of the taking or obtaining. (2) The term “extortion” means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right. (3) The term “commerce” means commerce within the District of Columbia, or any Territory or Possession of the United States; all commerce between any point in a State, Territory, Possession, or the District of Columbia and any point outside thereof; all commerce between points within the same State through any place outside such State; and all other commerce over which the United States has jurisdiction. (c) This section shall not be construed to repeal, modify or affect section 17 of Title 15, sections 52, 101–115, 151–166 of Title 29 or sections 151–188 of Title 45.


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18 U.S. Code §?241. Conspiracy against rights U.S. Code
Notes prev | next If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured— They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 9:52 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:49 am to
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State’s rights. They can do what they want.



baa baa baa
Posted by BoomNation
wetumpka. alabama
Member since Feb 2015
2099 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:50 am to
what if the peak doesn't happen in mid-april like expected does they extend to another 30 days
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:54 am to
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State’s rights. They can do what they want.


And then a city mayor overrides the governor's mandates and then a county judge says his mandate overrides the mayor's in his county so, where exactly is the ultimate authority?
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10446 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:56 am to
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Will be interesting to see if those governors are reelected if their economy stagnates while surrounding state's prosper.


Louisiana has been dealing with this for years, and nothing has changed.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:03 am to
Is there a fed stay at home order?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:09 am to
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Is there a fed stay at home order?


No, not sure where they would have the authority to do such a thing. As a generalization, not even the States have this ability... I see nothing wrong with a recommendation, which is what most of this is.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26332 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:12 am to
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And then a city mayor overrides the governor's mandates and then a county judge says his mandate overrides the mayor's in his county so, where exactly is the ultimate authority?


With the state, and however the state has set up its local governments. Many of the areas germane to this outbreak such as public health, schools, quarantines, etc, are for the most part under the authority of the individual states and not the federal government. Dual sovereignty.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:13 am to
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No, not sure where they would have the authority to do such a thing. As a generalization, not even the States have this ability... I see nothing wrong with a recommendation, which is what most of this is.


I was trying to tease that out of the op.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6452 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:32 am to
They look at the situation in their states, and make a decision based on that. Many will opene up everything, some will open up parts and keep others locked down, and some will maintain shelter in place.

I just hope they make decisions based on data and not party affiliation.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12125 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:37 am to
The blue states will wreck the economy on purpose..book it
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17711 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:55 am to
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I’m moving up to Wyoming to get a governor who gives a frick about his own economy and people


When our parents are gone, they will not move, we plan on moving to the great State of Wyoming. Have been planning this for a few years now.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38280 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:57 am to
Any lawyers on the Poli board know if anything can be filed under the states as Color of Law?

ETA just saw the bolder part. Is Color of Law the same as Color of Rights?
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 10:59 am
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