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When people talk about Nazi's in Ukraine why never talk about the Russian Nazi's there?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:27 am
For example in the occupied territory of Donetsk, where Russia has taken over -
Political parties active in the DPR include Donetsk Republic, the Communist Party of the Donetsk People's Republic, Free Donbas, and the New Russia Party. Donetsk Republic and the Communists endorsed Prime Minister Alexander Zakharchenko's candidature for the premiership in 2014. In the ensuing 2014 elections, the Communists were banned from participating independently because they had "made too many mistakes" in their submitted documents.Donetsk Republic gained a majority in the DPR People's Soviet with 68.53% of the vote and 68 seats. Free Donbas, including candidates from the Russian-nationalist extremist New Russia Party, won 31.65% of the vote and 32 seats.
Russian ethnic and imperialist nationalism has shaped the official ideology of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics.
According to Vyacheslav Likhachev, the members of far-right groups played a greater role on the pro-Russian side of the conflict than on the Ukrainian side, especially at the beginning.
Pavel Gubarev, one of the leaders of the Donetsk People's Republic, was closely linked to the neo-Nazi party Russian National Unity (RNU) led by Alexander Barkashov, which recruited fighters. Gubarev, a former member of RNU, was the first "governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic which was installed by Moscow.
In particular, RNU is linked to the Russian Orthodox Army, a separatist group in Donbas, and Barkashov is said to have given instructions to its commander Dmitry Boytsov according to a published audio recording.
Volunteers from several other Russian far-right groups have joined the separatist militias, including members of the Eurasian Youth Union, the Russian Imperial Movement, and the banned Slavic Union and Movement Against Illegal Immigration
Other neo-Nazi groups fighting as part of the Donetsk People's Republic include the 'Svarozhich', 'Rusich' and 'Ratibor' battalions, which have Slavic swastikas on their badges.
Activists from the Nazbol group Other Russia have also been involved in pro-Russian unrest in Donbas, and formed the Interbrigades paramilitary group.
In July 2015, the head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, said he respected Ukraine's far-right party Right Sector "when they beat up the gays in Kyiv and when they tried to depose Poroshenko. I realized that Pravy Sector are ordinary men like us".
Political parties active in the DPR include Donetsk Republic, the Communist Party of the Donetsk People's Republic, Free Donbas, and the New Russia Party. Donetsk Republic and the Communists endorsed Prime Minister Alexander Zakharchenko's candidature for the premiership in 2014. In the ensuing 2014 elections, the Communists were banned from participating independently because they had "made too many mistakes" in their submitted documents.Donetsk Republic gained a majority in the DPR People's Soviet with 68.53% of the vote and 68 seats. Free Donbas, including candidates from the Russian-nationalist extremist New Russia Party, won 31.65% of the vote and 32 seats.
Russian ethnic and imperialist nationalism has shaped the official ideology of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics.
According to Vyacheslav Likhachev, the members of far-right groups played a greater role on the pro-Russian side of the conflict than on the Ukrainian side, especially at the beginning.
Pavel Gubarev, one of the leaders of the Donetsk People's Republic, was closely linked to the neo-Nazi party Russian National Unity (RNU) led by Alexander Barkashov, which recruited fighters. Gubarev, a former member of RNU, was the first "governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic which was installed by Moscow.
In particular, RNU is linked to the Russian Orthodox Army, a separatist group in Donbas, and Barkashov is said to have given instructions to its commander Dmitry Boytsov according to a published audio recording.
Volunteers from several other Russian far-right groups have joined the separatist militias, including members of the Eurasian Youth Union, the Russian Imperial Movement, and the banned Slavic Union and Movement Against Illegal Immigration
Other neo-Nazi groups fighting as part of the Donetsk People's Republic include the 'Svarozhich', 'Rusich' and 'Ratibor' battalions, which have Slavic swastikas on their badges.
Activists from the Nazbol group Other Russia have also been involved in pro-Russian unrest in Donbas, and formed the Interbrigades paramilitary group.
In July 2015, the head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, said he respected Ukraine's far-right party Right Sector "when they beat up the gays in Kyiv and when they tried to depose Poroshenko. I realized that Pravy Sector are ordinary men like us".
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:27 am to Eurocat
Damn bro you ppl are imploding
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:28 am to Eurocat
I'd rather discuss your misuse of apostrophes instead.
Edited to add: Give me Nazis over Communists any day.
Edited to add: Give me Nazis over Communists any day.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:28 am to Eurocat
JJDoc is the leader in the Ukraine nazi argument, and I've said I think it's a reasonable position to take that you cannot give full throated support to Ukraine because of the Nazi elements.
But yeah, it's really weird to use it as a feather in Russia's cap, considering all of Eastern Europe and Russia are filled with similar sentiment.
But yeah, it's really weird to use it as a feather in Russia's cap, considering all of Eastern Europe and Russia are filled with similar sentiment.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:30 am to ClientNumber9
quote:
I'd rather discuss your misuse of apostrophes instead.
It’s an epidemic. Like nails on a chalkboard.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:36 am to Eurocat
the Wagner group is all you need to know
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:37 am to Pettifogger
Russia has a nazi paramilitary group in ukraine now called the wagner group
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:39 am to Eurocat
So if I read this right we should chose between degrees of Nazi?
Look, supply Zelensky with anti tank and small armaments until you fill up Poland with it for all I care. No uS boots moving across the Polish or Romanian frontiers. And no fricking planes.
Look, supply Zelensky with anti tank and small armaments until you fill up Poland with it for all I care. No uS boots moving across the Polish or Romanian frontiers. And no fricking planes.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:52 am to Eurocat
Majority of Americans will sacrifice anything for “safety” and comfort
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:55 am to KiwiHead
I strongly disagree. Now is the time for us to strike, while the Bear is reeling and weak.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:15 am to Eurocat
quote:WTF are you for real? you are advocating for war w russia? are you fricking high?
I strongly disagree. Now is the time for us to strike, while the Bear is reeling and weak.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:00 am to Eurocat
That Bear has tactical nukes and if cornered will no doubt use them. Read Harry Kazianis in the Federalist on the war game scenario. Poor assumptions lead to disastrous policy decisions.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:28 am to Jack Daniel
Russia's army is so badly furnished I think their nukes would go straight up and land on them. Like in a Road Runner vs Coyote cartoon.
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