re: When do Boomers take ANY accountability?

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NC_Tigah


Why are you wasting your time? Midtiger farm either doesn't want to understand or is incapable of understanding.

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Rather than taking his bizarre concerns about Boomers and their accountability to his Boomer parents/grandparents or other Boomers he may know, he instead bleeds out regularly on the PT forum whining about Boomers. He's a weak arse kid looking to blame someone for his poor decisions and insecurities.

GROW THE FRICK UP!!!!!

[quote]A literal drop in the bucket compared to ss and medicare as far a national spending


Medicaid is like a trillion a year.

Edit: AI said north of 14 trillion over its lifetime. I dont think reaching 20 trillion, or half the debt, would be difficult by adding up all the ginmedat programs that are multigenerational and abused as hell.[/quote]

I think if you use Minnesota as an example of the scope of outright fraud/theft from US taxpayers it's not too far out there to believe in any given year the US taxpayer is being ripped to the tune of $300-500 billion annually. If the US government simply tightens the screws down on waste, fraud and abuse along with prosecuting the fraudsters, then I think it's possible to begin the reversal of the debt spiral....but it's likely not gonna happen.

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bout 12% of Americans 65 or older work full-time.

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What % have continued in near 40 hr. week due to recent laws and what % is working on contract?

I know many have taken early retirement and went right back to their old jobs on contract.

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bout 12% of Americans 65 or older work full-time.
What % have continued in near 40 hr. week due to recent laws and what % is working on contract?

I know many have taken early retirement and went right back to their old jobs on contract.

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I know a lot of Boomers, all 8 of my siblings are Boomers, many of our friends are Boomers, none that I know of have retired and went back to work as contractors. I do know a few Boomers who are doing part time work to make ends meet.

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This ^^^^^ post is going to make a good run at being the dumbest PT post of 2026

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What's hilarious is lot of these guys self-identify as conservative.

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NC tigah who thinks he a ss expert

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It is an interesting exchange.

NCT posts that, on arrival to DC, every penny of payroll tax is immediately converted to an IOU US Debt obligation to the SSTF, and then spent in the general fund.
Midtiger farm responds NCT knows nothing, that there is no money in the SSTF.

NCT posts SS will run at a deficit beginning in 2034 if the program is unaltered.
Midtiger farm responds it is a myth that Social Security cannot run a deficit.

Frankly, I think the "Boomer" BS has you so blinded you cannot assess that every counterfactual you offer is a confirmation of what I'm telling you.

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So let's narrow the discussion to your perception that silents, or "boomers," (or Gens X,Y, Z) are the beneficiaries of SS.

So let's focus on the horrible boomers, OK?

In early 1983, the Social Security system was on the verge of imminent financial failure. By late 1982, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund was hemorrhaging money and losing roughly $17,000 every minute.

Actuaries projected that the main trust fund would be insolvent by July 1983 (sound familiar?), at which point the federal government would have lacked the legal authority and liquid funds to issue full benefit checks to retirees and disabled Americans.

So Boomers got hit with the Social Security Amendments of 1983 to ensure the Greatest Generation, and Silents would receive payments they were expecting. It was a different day and time. There was no mass information. There was no Internet. Boomers were convinced it was their duty to ensure solvency of Social Security.

Nonetheless, SS payouts expanded massively (and erroneously) in the 1970's. (from 1972-77, COLA adjusted benefits were essentially double counted). As a result, where combined payroll tax in 1970 was 8.4%. The recalculated payroll tax rate for boomers turned into 12.4% ... a 150% increase.

As we face the 2034 SS challenge, what boomers were confronted with would be the equivalent of current combined payroll tax jumping 18%!!!
Can you imagine your payroll tax jumping 18% ???
Yet, your attitude is boomers somehow screwed you?

Could that not serve as the basis of reasonable reset in dialogue here?

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Further, who do you assess as the beneficiary of SS in it's current form?
It "offers" a 3% GUARANTEED ROI to 20&30 somethings. What 20-30 something imbecile would voluntarily accept that "deal"?

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hilarious is lot of these guys self-identify as conservative

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Can you please show us the post where a non boomer posted non “conservative” ideology?

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You'll need to do some comparative research there.

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LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Bush, Obama…
Pretty much sums it up.
The takeaway could be they were the most easily duped generation via the television and it’s propaganda.

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You'll need to do some comparative research there.
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LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Bush, Obama…

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Goodness!
When I said "comparative research," I meant actually looking stuff up.

When you attribute LBJ's election to boomers (the oldest boomers were just turning 18 in 1964), the assertion is so alarmingly stupid, it really doesn't warrant a response other than to acknowledge its ignorance.

Generational voting tendencies were detailed earlier in the thread. You obviously missed that as well. In summary, Boomers voted surprisingly more conservatively as a cohort than subsequent generations. Here is what AI (Gemini) says:

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Tracking generational voting behavior all the way back to 1964 requires looking at how generations are defined, when they entered the electorate, and how pollsters (like the Pew Research Center and exit polls) measure their share of the vote over time.

Because official exit polls and major political science datasets track voters by age brackets (e.g., 18–29, 30–44) rather than rigid generational labels in real-time, historical data for generations before they existed as distinct political blocs must be reconstructed using cohort analysis. Furthermore, calculating the exact percentage of the total vote contributed by every single generation in every election since 1964 involves shifting demographic weights—older generations shrinking due to mortality, and younger generations expanding as they turn 18.

1. Generational Definitions & Electorate Entry Points
To understand who was voting when, here is when each generation became eligible:
Baby Boomers (born 1946–1964): Began turning 18 in 1964 and fully entered the electorate between 1964 and 1982.
Generation X (born 1965–1980): Began turning 18 in 1983 and fully entered the electorate between 1983 and 1998.
Millennials (born 1981–1996): Began turning 18 in 1999 and fully entered the electorate between 1999 and 2014.
Generation Z (born 1997–2012): Began turning 18 in 2015 and started voting en masse beginning with the 2016 and 2020 elections.

2. How Each Generation Voted When Eligible (The Political Leanings)
Generational voting patterns change over time due to "aging" (people often become more conservative or Republican as they acquire property, families, and wealth) and "generational imprint" (the formative political events experienced during youth).

Baby Boomers
When they were young (1970s–1980s): Contrary to the myth that all Boomers were radical 1960s hippies, young Boomers actually leaned relatively conservative in the late 1970s and 1980s (helping elect Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984).
Middle age to present: For decades, Boomers formed the backbone of the Republican voting coalition, though as they grew older, they split more evenly. In recent cycles (like 2020 and 2024), Boomers and the older Silent Generation leaned reliably Republican, giving a majority of their votes to Donald Trump.

Generation X
When they entered the electorate (Late 1980s–1990s): Gen X entered politics during the Reagan-Bush and Clinton eras and initially leaned distinctively conservative or independent-leaning Republican in their youth.
Maturity to present: Gen X has historically been one of the most politically "swing" or moderate generations. Over time, their preferences have drifted closer to parity, often splitting closely down the middle in presidential cycles, though leaning slightly Republican in midterms.

Millennials
When they entered the electorate (2000s–2010s): Millennials entered voting age during the George W. Bush administration, the Iraq War, and the 2008 Great Recession. This shaped them into the most heavily Democratic-leaning generation in modern American history.
Present: Unlike older generations who typically drift rightward as they age, Millennials have largely retained their progressive/Democratic alignment as they entered their 30s and 40s, though economic pressures have caused some margin narrowing with younger cohorts.

Generation Z
When they entered the electorate (2016–Present): Gen Z tracks closely with (or even slightly to the left of) Millennials on social issues, climate change, and the role of government.
Present: In presidential elections like 2020 and 2024, voters under 30 heavily favored Democratic candidates (roughly 60%+ for Democrats in 2020), though young men in Gen Z showed increased volatility and movement toward the GOP in 2024 compared to young women.

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