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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:35 am to CptRusty
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:35 am to CptRusty
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it's a distinction without a difference, unless you can explain otherwise.
non-viable = unable to survive regardless of medical intervention. Not capable of human life.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:35 am to BamaAtl
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she discovers a medical problem after conception that would bring a risk to her, etc.
This is covered under the Alabama bill..
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:36 am to BamaAtl
quote:Indeed. Would also imply responsibility and consequences for ending the life of another. You’ve boomed yourself.
Consent is a part of autonomy. If you consent to something, you maintain your autonomy because you chose to allow it to happen.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:36 am to BamaAtl
quote:You left off the rest of my statement: "so long as her actions with her body do not result in the deaths of others."
Including end her pregnancy.
It's like that old saying, you can swing your fist around all you want as long as you don't hit someone else. In this case, the abortion is hitting someone else.
quote:Yes it can. There are already punitive laws and regulations around drinking while pregnant because it can harm the child.
The state cannot force you to forgo bodily autonomy to keep another human alive.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:36 am to beerJeep
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Father doesn’t consent to the baby being born. His autonomy
That's not what bodily autonomy is, little buddy.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:36 am to BamaAtl
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non-viable = unable to survive regardless of medical intervention.
Well, let's go ahead and kill the terminally ill.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:36 am to BamaAtl
quote:You are THAT gullible. All you have do is change a word and now you are a-ok with killing human babies
Fetus, not baby.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:36 am to BamaAtl
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the partner lies about protection, or she's abused, or the contraception fails (as they can do),
“You gotta condom on right?”
“Yeah”
“Okay, I believe you. Just gonna close my eyes now and not look and see. Or, hell, ya know, feel the difference between flesh and a rubber”
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:37 am to BamaAtl
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Unless she's raped, or the partner lies about protection, or she's abused, or the contraception fails (as they can do), or she discovers a medical problem after conception that would bring a risk to her, etc.
And not one bill put forth by Dems limits abortion to these scenarios
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:37 am to BamaAtl
And just like that, we're at the part where we try to use the exception to prove the rule. This is a particularly dishonest strategy used by leftists, because they have absolutely NO intention of conceding that the remaining 98% of abortions are acts of pure evil. It's a transparent appeal to emotion, nothing more.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:37 am to therick711
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There is no absolute right to bodily autonomy.
There is.
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You can't smuggle contraband into a prison by jamming it up your a-hole.
You can choose to jam it up there, and the state can choose to remove it. You still got to choose to 'slip and fall' on it.
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Preventing the killing of a life is justifiable intrusion
It's not.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:37 am to BamaAtl
quote:Why not?
Its rights don't supersede those of the pregnant woman.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:37 am to BamaAtl
when that "autonomy" was the right to murder an innocent life
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:38 am to BamaAtl
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That's not what bodily autonomy is, little buddy.
Where did I say bodily autonomy, stupid shite?
I said FINANCIAL autonomy. And autonomy over his life for the next 18 years.
Reading is hard, eh?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:38 am to BamaAtl
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Nobody's arguing we should kill babies after birth.
Except Obama who as a State Senator advocated letting babies that survived abortions die of neglect....
Except the NY Legislature.....
Except the Gov. of Virginia....
Except the thousands of Democrats who refuse to advocate any number of "Born Alive Protection" acts...
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:39 am to BamaAtl
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non-viable = unable to survive regardless of medical intervention. Not capable of human life.
So again, am I allowed to walk into an ICU and start killing people who are on life support?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:39 am to BamaAtl
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you guys
I'm not trying to bar anything
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:39 am to BamaAtl
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Abstinence
Condoms
Birth Control Pills
Norplant
Vasectomies
Hysterectomies
Which of these is being "barred"?
All of them? I said try to bar, you guys aren't as successful as you'd like at preventing evil contraceptives from being available
When did lawmakers try to ban condoms and whatnot?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to BamaAtl
quote:Once again, give us proof.
All of them? I said try to bar, you guys aren't as successful as you'd like at preventing evil contraceptives from being available to lustful Americans!
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to CptRusty
Here's a description from medical-dictionary.com. I've left the term fetus unchanged. It does not make it any less monstrous, depraved, and barbaric. But then, I'm not dumb enough to be fooled by a simple term
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IDX first involves administration of medications to cause the cervix to dilate. Dilation usually occurs over the course of several days. Next, the physician rotates the fetus to a footling breech position. The body of the fetus is then drawn out of the uterus feet first, until only the head remains inside the uterus. The physician then uses an instrument to puncture the base of the skull, which collapses the fetal head. Typically, the contents of the fetal head are then partially suctioned out, which results in the death of the fetus and reduces the size of the fetal head enough to allow it to pass through the cervix. The dead but otherwise intact fetus is then removed from the woman's body.
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