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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:24 pm to civiltiger07
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:24 pm to civiltiger07
My guess is she’s a LCSW who works on clinical trials for Emory. She’s not even close to smart enough to be a podiatrist, let alone a MD. She barely knows enough about the health system to be a nurse and she has too much spare time to be involved in direct patient care.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:24 pm to ShortyRob
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Why does the woman suddenly lose "bodily autonomy" in the last 3 months?
Viability. Obviously. Were birth to be induced, the baby would have a reasonable chance of surviving, so the mother doesn't have to be forced to continue the pregnancy (though obviously better for the future baby if she does).
Have you not been paying attention?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:24 pm to BamaAtl
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Oh no, better science might make us have to update some laws.
So it turns out you LIED about your credentials?!?
If that's the case WHY should ANYONE listen to your insane, Nazi-esque ramblings?
BWWAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:24 pm to ShortyRob
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Why does the woman suddenly lose "bodily autonomy" in the last 3 months?
Viability. Obviously. Were birth to be induced, the baby would have a reasonable chance of surviving, so the mother doesn't have to be forced to continue the pregnancy (though obviously better for the future baby if she does).
Have you not been paying attention?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:25 pm to BamaAtl
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Were birth to be induced, the baby would have a reasonable chance of surviving,
That's the definition of viability?
If a woman simply doesn't have an abortion the baby has a reasonable chance of surviving.
What I don't understand about this "viability" argument is that you're OK with forcing women to carry a baby the last term because it might be able to survive outside her. But as soon as it's outside her it cannot survive without constant help, so what's the difference?
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:25 pm to BamaAtl
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
So the mother should have the right to induce labor when a Dr. says the fetus is viable. That's the logic you are using.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:25 pm to FooManChoo
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Even if it means killing another person?
You understand that people don't really agree on what constitutes a person or human life, right?
It's not murder if you don't believe it is a distinct person
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:26 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Why does the woman suddenly lose "bodily autonomy" in the last 3 months?
Viability. Obviously. Were birth to be induced, the baby would have a reasonable chance of surviving, so the mother doesn't have to be forced to continue the pregnancy (though obviously better for the future baby if she does).
Have you not been paying attention?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:26 pm to BamaAtl
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So are you actually a doctor?
quote:
Yep!
Paging Dr. Dumbarse, paging Dr. Dumbarse, you are a doctor all right
:lol:
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:26 pm to cahoots
quote:Yes and some Dems think injecting saline into a babies brain is cool.
You understand that people don't really agree on what constitutes a person or human life, right?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:27 pm to cahoots
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It's not murder if you don't believe it is a distinct person
That's a terrifying thought. Remember when killing a slave wasn't murder because the slave wasn't a distinct person?
Yes. It is murder. Youre just an idiot without a moral compass.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:27 pm to cahoots
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You understand that people don't really agree on what constitutes a person or human life, right?
People didn’t agree in the 1800s, either.
Ultimately, the culture war over abortion will be won by whichever side wins the “is a fetus a person or not?” moral argument.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:27 pm to BamaAtl
the dreaded triple post! And every time it was just as dumb as the time before.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:28 pm to BamaAtl
quadruple post!
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:28 pm to the808bass
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too much spare time to be involved in direct patient care.
Clinic days and rotations onto consult service give us lots of time to conduct research and apply for grants. Sometimes, especially just after commencement, it's a little slow on the research front.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:28 pm to Jbird
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Yes and some Dems think injecting saline into a babies brain is cool.
it's just mind boggling that conservatives can't understand that some people don't view a cluster of cells inside a woman's body as a distinct human being
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:29 pm to civiltiger07
That was on purpose I'd bet. Ignoring post that destroy her arguments are also on purpose.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:29 pm to cahoots
quote:Yes, which is why that is the fundamental issue to discuss, not all the peripheral issues like choice and economics.
You understand that people don't really agree on what constitutes a person or human life, right?
quote:Hitler didn't think the Jews were human, either. Slave owners didn't think the African slaves they purchased weren't human either. Seems to be a common theme.
It's not murder if you don't believe it is a distinct person
It's not about whether or not a person believes it to be another person, but if they actually are another person. Acting in ignorance doesn't make the decision moral.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:29 pm to cahoots
quote:That cluster has a brain?
it's just mind boggling that conservatives can't understand that some people don't view a cluster of cells inside a woman's body that more often than not don't even survive as a distinct human being that can somehow be murdered
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Ultimately, the culture war over abortion will be won by whichever side wins the “is a fetus a person or not?” moral argument.
The culture war is already over - <25% of Americans believe abortion should be banned, and that number is going to decrease as older Americans die off. It's just that Republicans refuse to admit they've lost.
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