re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

I am for the rights granted to us by nature / god / whatever you want and protected by the constitution. There is this little one that is the right to life, easy to miss since it is right at the beginning of the list.

I'd wager it is pretty important. Don't care if you believe a fetus is a full human at conception or not, but you have to admit that a fertilized egg, at the very least, is potentially a human being. It is an independent entity from the mother that carries it, even as it needs the womb of the mother to survive.

Reasoning behind this is: IF you could crate a fully functioning artificial womb, a single cell fertilized egg could conceivably be gestated without the need for the natural womb. Try to deny that logic. We are growing meat in labs. We are a LOT closer to artificially gestating humans than you think.

Now that we have established that, at least, a fetus is a potential human being, independent of the mother, who are you to deny it rights? Who are you to deny another human the right to exist, the right to be born, the right to experience +everything you do? Let me know who exactly, you think you are that has the power to make that call?

A fertilized egg rings a bell that literally only be "un rung" by death. You cannot deny that unless you are being willfully dismissive of your logical, ingrained, non cultural human instincts.

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That's an issue of bodily autonomy - the woman did not choose to abort the fetus, so there's a crime. Had she so chosen that route for her body, it's not a crime.

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How then do you deal with the violation of the bodily autonomy by having someone place a penis in the mother's vagina? Did not the autonomy give way to the rights of the other at that point?

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if a pregnant mother is murdered and the baby (fetus) is killed as well how many counts of murder is the killer charged with?

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That's an issue of bodily autonomy - the woman did not choose to abort the fetus, so there's a crime. Had she so chosen that route for her body, it's not a crime.

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What a moron!

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infanticide

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Nobody's arguing we should kill babies after birth.

Well, some Republicans are re: undocumented immigrant children, but I'm certainly not.

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non-sapient organism (1st trimester, at least) HAS no “autonomy.” It does not even have basic higher brain function, which does not develop until early in the 3rd trimester.

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So are you ok with murder of people who are undergoing surgery?

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The rights of one don't dictate that the other lose all autonomy.


This is an argument against abortion.

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It's an argument for abortion - the mother can't be forced to give up her autonomy to carry a fetus to term.

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The state can't force you to give up bodily autonomy

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I bet if you walk out in the street and punch someone in the face then the state will definitely have something to say about it.

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The state can't force you to give up bodily autonomy to save another human life -

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1) Alabama might be able to say "you can't do that HERE". Surely, it will be tested

2) If ONLY we humans could devise a way to NOT get pregnant....hmmmm...I'll talk to my wife and try to figure out how WE avoided it and I'll get back to you. Perhaps, we can develop a product or strategy that we can "sell" to the public that doesn't want to have a baby.

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bodily autonomy
This word. Does not apply to a pregnant person.

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Of course it does. They have a right to decide what to do with their body, even moreso when it's at increased risk as during pregnancy.

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Nobody's arguing we should kill babies after birth.

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Gov. Coonman did.