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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:19 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:19 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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What right is she losing the ability to do to her body?
"well you see, this other being inside of her that isn't part of her body, somehow is part of her body, even though it's completely different, genetically"
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well they can, but it would violate our rights (in most circumstances. i'm sure there is some random arse exception or one could be created, like how Roe v. Wade created a right to abortion out of thin air)
Given that, a pregnant woman's rights are violated when the state demands she give up her bodily autonomy and carry a fetus to term regardless of her wishes.
Why do you support one intrusion of rights at the expense of a human life, but not another?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:19 pm to BamaAtl
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Why? I thought Republicans were all about small government
Live look at BamaAtl's arguments
ETA: This was my 10,000th post. Worth it.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:19 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Yes. She does. And, they are myriad
Murder for convenience not being one of them
Bingo.
I mean hell. Parents have all the same rights as single people..........but let that parent leave their 2 month old alone in the house for a week so they can travel to Jamaica and the state is gonna be all up in their "rights".
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:20 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Opinion pieces don't count, princess. Provide something real or shut the frick up.
Multiple links, multiple definitions
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:20 pm to BamaAtl
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Given that, a pregnant woman's rights are violated when the state demands she give up her bodily autonomy
nope
science demands that she gives up her body autonomy, not the state. like i said a while back, take it up with God
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:20 pm to BamaAtl
quote:No
Given that, a pregnant woman's rights are violated when the state demands she give up her bodily autonomy and carry a fetus to term regardless of her wishes.
The state just demands that she not commit murder for convenience
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm to BamaAtl
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Given that, a pregnant woman's rights are violated when the state demands she give up her bodily autonomy and carry a fetus to term regardless of her wishes.
How about birth control for all. Pass it out in the schools.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm to ShortyRob
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If a person outside the womb lacks the ability to consent for any of a wide variety of reasons, can I kill them?
That would be murder.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm to BamaAtl
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Why? I thought Republicans were all about small government
And I thought democrats were for the little man
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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here i'll summarize the correct response: no
Except for pregnant women - why?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm to BamaAtl
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Given that, a pregnant woman's rights are violated when the state demands she give up her bodily autonomy and carry a fetus to term regardless of her wishes.
What right is violated by not being able to kill another homo sapien with DNA different than that of the mother?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Agreed. You should go re-read your link then, because it applies to the baby too.
That would be murder.
Thanks for playing
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
so have we moved beyond the concept of the "social contract"?
Have you moved beyond wondering why you have to pay taxes?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:22 pm to BamaAtl
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a pregnant woman's rights are violated when the state demands she give up her bodily autonomy and carry a fetus to term regardless of her wishes.
A pregnant woman's rights SHOULD be violated when she is carrying her 5th soon to be welfare dependent kid and expecting errrone else to pay for it, don't you agree?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:22 pm to BamaAtl
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Why? I thought Republicans were all about small government.
Why? Because the childs right to life trumps the mothers "right" to convenience.
Republicans are definitely "all about" small government. One of the roles of government, small or otherwise, is the protection of life of its citizens.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:22 pm to ShortyRob
quote:But, but BamaAtl said not viable... Hmmm, seems to not be viable then either. This is so interesting.
I mean hell. Parents have all the same rights as single people..........but let that parent leave their 2 month old alone in the house for a week so they can travel to Jamaica and the state is gonna be all up in their "rights".
Waiting on the goal posts to be moved yet again.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:22 pm to BamaAtl
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Except for pregnant women - why?
that's a straw man
you're mad that women are the only ones who get pregnant. fine. nobody posting in this thread created that pardigm
your issue is with that entity/process, not "the state" and not "Republicans"
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:23 pm to BamaAtl
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Have you moved beyond wondering why you have to pay taxes?
because of authoritarianism and power
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:23 pm to FooManChoo
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Risks of going to term is a different matter, and it's already been said by me and others that making an exception for the life of the mother is a reasonable exception.
There are many risks to pregnancy that fall short of death for the pregnant woman.
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I'm in favor of the state saying that someone can't make the choice to kill my 4-year old.
Who's rights to bodily autonomy are violated if your child continues living?
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