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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
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the person being killed for their kidney


In my analogy nobody dies unless the state refuses to force someone to violate their bodily autonomy. Just like in abortion.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
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You don't really need 25 pages to say, "I don't give a frick about babies".


I'll say it again: BamaAxis doesn't give a fk about babies AFTER they are born.

She supports policies that enable and ENCOURAGE cycles of suffering and poverty whilst casting stones at Pro-Lifers.

To Bama and most Demos, childrens are props, Legislative human shields and things to be taxed.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5333 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
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the rights of the fetus supersede her rights.


The right to live for another Homo Sapien supersede her right to kill another Homo Sapien.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44675 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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So if a woman is raped and too traumatized to immediately get Plan B, tough shite?

What a monster you are.


They have control to do that. They control their decision to take or not take Plan B. They can get it from a hospital. They can get it at any major pharmacy. They can have it delivered by Amazon.

You state woman want control of their bodies. I’m giving you examples of the controls they have. You want unlimited controls without regard for any other right to life. NEWS FLASH: No one in this country has that.

Move the goalpost a little further... another tiny percentage of the tiny percentage...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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if the state were forcing women to get pregnant against their will then your analogy would be more apt

Exactly

If a pregnant woman gets in a car accident and she is mortally wounded but the baby can't survive, the state can't go implant that baby in another woman against her will.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Yes, for the duration of the pregnancy, the childs right to life trumps the mothers right


Why? I thought Republicans were all about small government.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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In my analogy nobody dies unless the state refuses to force someone to violate their bodily autonomy. Just like in abortion.


Again, your problem is, you don't recognize that in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney is the baby and, the person doing the killing is the mom.

That you can't see that is honestly just another example of your stupidity.

Again, to use your analogy, the state saying "yes" to you asking to kill for convenience is exactly like the state saying "yes" to me killing you for your kidney.

You don't want me to kill you for your kidney. The baby doesn't want you to kill it just because you fricked up.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92830 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Fetus, not baby


This is a pathetic response
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
We know you...you believe life begins at taxation...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
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I thought Republicans were all about small government.

pointing out simple GOP hypocrisy is a libertarian move that's about 30 years old. you're not being clever, here
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154395 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
Sometimes keeping you savages in check you have to make concessions.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Why? I thought Republicans were all about small government.

I feel pretty certain that all small govt conservatives still don't support you killing a person because they are inconvenient to you
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
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This is a pathetic response


an improvement from "parasite"
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Your ENTIRE argument rests on the idea that the baby possesses or rather, should NOT possess any rights.


Of course not - the argument is that the pregnant woman has rights AS WELL, and that her rights don't disappear merely because she's pregnant.

We really don't need 28 pages for you to say "I don't give a frick about pregnant women's rights" but it's still fun to see you squirm.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5333 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Why? I thought Republicans were all about small government


Bc one of the functions of a small government should be the outlawing of killing other homo sapiens.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
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You haven't provided one shred of proof to back up anything you have said.


Multiple links, multiple definitions. I can't really control it if you don't read them or don't understand them at this point, little guy.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Of course not - the argument is that the pregnant woman has rights AS WELL, and that her rights don't disappear merely because she's pregnant.
Yes. She does. And, they are myriad

Murder for convenience not being one of them
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134134 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Yes. She does. And, they are myriad

Murder for convenience not being one of them


Bingo.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39567 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
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the argument is that the pregnant woman has rights AS WELL, and that her rights don't disappear merely because she's pregnant.



What right is she losing the ability to do to her body?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
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the argument is that the pregnant woman has rights AS WELL

and science mandates that women carry our internally-gestating babies

your argument isn't with government; it's with God/science

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and that her rights don't disappear merely because she's pregnant.

sure, but she should never be given an exception regarding murder, either

quote:

We really don't need 28 pages for you to say "I don't give a frick about pregnant women's rights"

guys. she's starting to be honest. this is about political stances and nothing else

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