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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they can't
Why not?
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what body part is being taken from the mother by the state?
This is a bad way to look at it - it's more broadly about bodily autonomy and the state having the ability to tell you what to do with yours, be it donate a kidney or carry a baby to term.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 pm to CptRusty
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Her body and the child's body are intertwined for the duration of the pregnancy. No way around it.
Bama is upset that
1. Humans gestate internally
2. Only females (sex) get pregnant
seriously, this is all just a big "it's not fair" temper tantrum justifying, quite often (But not always), murder
like i said earlier, her extremist ilk make it very difficult to be honest and admit that i'm pro choice, b/c then people think i'm her
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 pm to BamaAtl
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Unless she chooses not to continue a pregnancy - which affects HER body.
Even the language is silly
"chooses not to continue"
I believe there is an inherent reason people try to soften the practice when they discuss it, whether they want to acknowledge their motivation or not.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Your ENTIRE argument rests on the idea that the baby possesses or rather, should NOT possess any rights.
It's not moving the goalposts when you have to drag them back to their original place because some of you either don't understand the term or are purposefully redefining it so your arguments are only 50% as bad.
You don't really need 25 pages to say, "I don't give a frick about babies".
You could have saved yourself a lot of time
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:04 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Nope, it's moving the goal posts. Period. You haven't provided one shred of proof to back up anything you have said. You are either too stupid or a coward. It's one or the other.
It's not moving the goalposts when you have to drag them back to their original place because some of you either don't understand the term or are purposefully redefining it so your arguments are only 50% as bad
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:05 pm to BamaAtl
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IVF. You'd do better not to traffic in absolutes - this isn't the Q thread where anyone who points out your bullshite has their post deleted and gets a DM about not pissing off the idiots.
An ad hominem straw man? You don't get bonus points for stacking logical fallacies.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Bama is upset that
1. Humans gestate internally
2. Only females (sex) get pregnant
seriously, this is all just a big "it's not fair" temper tantrum
Yep
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:05 pm to BamaAtl
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That's not what viability means in this context.
Says the Nazi b!tch that lives and dies by semantics....
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:05 pm to BamaAtl
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Why not?
well they can, but it would violate our rights (in most circumstances. i'm sure there is some random arse exception or one could be created, like how Roe v. Wade created a right to abortion out of thin air)
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This is a bad way to look at it -
only if you want to be dishonest (like you are)
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t's more broadly about bodily autonomy
take it up with God, then
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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take it up with God, then
She believes He should have been aborted
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to DemonKA3268
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You are either too stupid or a coward. It's one or the other.
I'm guessing for once in her Nazi life BamaAxis is multi-tasking and the answer is "both"....
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to ShortyRob
quote:remember Bama called gestating humans "parasites" a week or 2 ago
You don't really need 25 pages to say, "I don't give a frick about babies".
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to BamaAtl
Since we're painting with a broad brush, when did Democrats stop raising their kids and letting them turn feral?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to ShortyRob
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Your analogy tried to flip the actors.
To make an accurate point about state coercion of an individual's bodily autonomy. You're attempting to skew it toward murder, when that's not the issue at all.
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In your analogy as compared to abortion, the person being forced to give up their kidney isn't being forced by the state
Oh, did you misread it? In my scenario, that person is being forced by the state - their choice in the matter is being taken away, directly, by the state.
Why are you okay with that choice being removed in some cases where life hangs in the balance, but not others?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Her kind don't believe in God except when trying to make an argument for something that she knows is wrong. Convenient, huh?
take it up with God, then
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and when those terms were crafted, the "social contract" would have allowed punishment of women who aborted babies
I think we can all agree we've moved beyond the days of Christians burning witches at the stake - at least in the US.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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remember Bama called gestating humans "parasites" a week or 2 ago
She says it on a message board.
That cowardly fk would NEVER say it in the real world.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:07 pm to BamaAtl
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It's not moving the goalposts when you have to drag them
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:07 pm to DemonKA3268
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except when trying to make an argument for something that she knows is wrong. Convenient, huh?
well she's making fun of Bible beaters
which would make sense if she really thought this Bama bill was anything more than a political stunt (which the left did themselves not long ago, just on the opposite side). this is all just political pandering to get abortion as a 2020 campaign issue. nothing more
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