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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:36 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:36 am to BamaAtl
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I've been very clear in what my definition for that is.
Help me out then. What is your definition of what is and isn't a person. And what scientific evidence do you use to form your definition? Show me the science that says "A" is not a person but "B" is a person.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:36 am to BamaAtl
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Money and timing wouldn't be convenience if Parents (plural) would commit to caring for children after they're born.
FIFY
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:36 am to Taxing Authority
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Because, I’ve already demonstrated the failed premise behind it.
So you don't want to answer the question because you know you can't? At least you admit when you've been beaten
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Not explain how I can be forced to provide labor and wages earned solely by using my bodily autonomy can be forcibly used to provide life-saving care to others?
That's not what bodily autonomy means.
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Is that not your position on socialized medicine?
It isn't at all.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:36 am to BamaAtl
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(see: Mary, the Virgin)
The irony of someone like you who supports murdering the unborn as well as perpetuating the starvation and suffering of children OUTSIDE the womb making a Christian reference is totally expected from the likes of you...
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:37 am to BamaAtl
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Because you can't force one human to give up fundamental rights to bodily autonomy to sustain another.
And yet the activity she chooses to engage in voluntarily (in 95%+ of abortions performed) is the ONE thing that results in pregnancy.
You do acknowledge that at some point, that clump of cells MUST make the magical transformation into a human being, yes?
At one point, the rhetorical dividing line was the point at which the baby could live outside the mother's womb, but NY and other places just blew that distinction right out of the water with their infanticide bills.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Money and timing wouldn't be convenience if Parents (plural) would commit to caring for children after they're born.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:37 am to BamaAtl
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bodily autonomy
also, what does this even mean? No one has absolutely "bodily autonomy," unless you're just making up terms to fit your grotesque pet cause (you are).
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:38 am to BamaAtl
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Because you can't force one human to give up fundamental rights to bodily autonomy to sustain another.
You can't force someone to give up a kidney to another person so that the latter will live.
What an odd analogy. You just literally described what abortion IS...........using kidneys.
If I kill you for your kidneys so that I may live, that's kinda like killing my baby so I won't be inconvenienced.
Actually, you could probably defend killing someone for their kidneys so to save your life MORE than you can defend killing for convenience!
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:38 am to the808bass
You want to answer the question?
Can the state force you to provide a kidney to transplant to an individual who is dying, provided you'll both live?
Can the state force you to provide a kidney to transplant to an individual who is dying, provided you'll both live?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:38 am to BamaAtl
quote:The mother isn't being told to do anything in pregnancy. Pregnancy itself will likely result in the birth of the child if left undisturbed. The argument is that we're telling the mother to not do something (abortion) because it directly threatens the life of the child.quote:Not when that individual can exist only through her giving up her rights.
Her right to do what she wants with her body is most certainly superseded by the right of another person to exist.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:39 am to BamaAtl
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And if a woman can't afford that?
Let me simplify it so that even a moron like YOU can understand: If Shaniqua can afford a WEAVE, she can afford an IUD...
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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this question only works in the actual view of "autonomy"
I agree, thanks for pointing that out.
Do you want to answer the question, or not?
Why can't the state force you to give up a kidney to save a life any time it wants?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:39 am to McLemore
Main logic here is 1) baby cannot survive without its mother 2) contraception isn't 100% effective or available
Therefore if formula is unavailable or ineffective, it is acceptable to kill a nursing 6 month old
Therefore if formula is unavailable or ineffective, it is acceptable to kill a nursing 6 month old
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:39 am to BamaAtl
quote:How about you answer some damn questions and quit deflecting you moronic frick.
You want to answer the question?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:40 am to BamaAtl
quote:How is it you don't realize you're actually making OUR point?
You want to answer the question?
Can the state force you to provide a kidney to transplant to an individual who is dying, provided you'll both live?
Forget the state. Should YOU be able to kill me for my kidney so that you may live?
Then why can you just KILL a baby so that you may not be inconvenienced?
The state would not let you kill me for my kidney and, the argument here is, the state also should let you kill a baby so that you don't get inconvenienced
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:40 am to VoxDawg
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Because you can't force one human to give up fundamental rights to bodily autonomy to sustain another.
i don't have time to find where bamatroll said this, but it's probably the most idiotic of his statements in this thread, and that's saying a lot given the competition.
a) it begs the question of what is a fundamental right.
b) it ignores the fact that every day parents are required to give up their "bodily autonomy" to sustain another.
oh wait, i said i was out. have fun with a top-5 worst TD poster of all time.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:40 am to BamaAtl
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But you can donate it.
And your baby can be put up for adoption
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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aborting babies violates the social contract
Do you not know the term social contract? Huh. I would have thought you'd know it at least minimally.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:40 am to McLemore
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which individual are you talking about?
The pregnant one.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:41 am to BamaAtl
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Can the state force you to provide a kidney to transplant to an individual who is dying, provided you'll both live?
No but you also can't sell your kidney..nor can you have your friend remove it..proving your decisions about your kidney are not something you can make on your own.
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