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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:16 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:16 am to BamaAtl
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Are they 100% effective?
Thank you for proving my subtext point. You want 100% guarantees of freedom from consequences, when it will never exist unless you go the abstinence route. Women must be more conscientious of these because the way that human biology is, they're the ones that get stuck with the consequences.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:16 am to BamaAtl
quote:Look I know Leftists are complete sluts who can't help but frick all the time, but most people have bodily autonomy
Yeah, because that'll help solve the issue!
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:16 am to Darth_Vader
A fetus is three fifths of a person. Everybody knows Pat.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:16 am to genro
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Why are you keeping it to the lowest minimum?
Because those are the laws you and your dumbass party are passing at present. Pay attention.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:17 am to the808bass
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You’re arguing for infanticide
No, abortion.
You're arguing for a complete removal of the right to bodily autonomy for pregnant women - why?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:17 am to BamaAtl
So, when medical technology advances to the point we can incubate a human baby even at six weeks, you'll become pro life?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:18 am to BamaAtl
quote:So they’re equal right?? The mother had a choice in most instances. The child does not get a choice in its life or subsequent death by being ripped apart or stabbed to death.
Its rights don't supersede those of the pregnant woman
How is that not barbaric??
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:18 am to BamaAtl
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No, abortion. You're arguing for a complete removal of the right to bodily autonomy for pregnant women - why?
That right never existed. You can’t sell your kidney...
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:19 am to Darth_Vader
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On what legal and moral basis can a fetus be denied the same rights as any other human?
It requires another human's agreeing to give up bodily autonomy in order to continue living.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:19 am to Taxing Authority
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Abstinence works 100% of the time.
Good luck building real policy on something that won't happen.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:19 am to the808bass
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A fetus is three fifths of a person. Everybody knows Pat.
You fricker. You beat me to it. Slaves had it better than unborn children when it comes to the way that the Democrats view them. At least a slave was 60% of a person. Babies don't get nearly that much acknowledgement from the Dems.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:19 am to BamaAtl
Answer the question.
You first.
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Can the state force you to provide labor and wages earned with one’s autonomous body to pay for a kidney to transplant to an individual who is dying, provided you'll both live?
You first.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:19 am to BamaAtl
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It requires another human's agreeing to give up bodily autonomy in order to continue living.
That’s true of any child...can’t just leave them in the woods.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to BamaAtl
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You're arguing for a complete removal of the right to bodily autonomy for pregnant women - why?
they understand genetics
while you change the moral and scientific definitions on the fly to suit your political views
your dishonest ilk make me feel bad saying i'm pro choice
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to BamaAtl
quote:Lol, this dumbarse actually said this?? Try opening your eyes and ears. You will be amazed at all the dumbassery that goes away when you do.
Because those are the laws you and your dumbass party are passing at present. Pay attention.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to BamaAtl
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Condoms have a horrid success rate
99% is a horrid success rate.
And republicans only want birth control removed from government mandates healthcare plans that people are forced to buy, not private ones
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to BamaAtl
quote:That's not what even remotely equivalent, so no, it's not what we're talking about.
It is what we're talking about - the state has no more right to demand you give up a part of your body to save another life than it does to demand a woman carry a fetus to term if she chooses not to.
A mother doesn't have to "give up" anything in order to carry a child. The natural state is to carry the child. If she doesn't actively do anything to endanger the child, it will likely be brought to term and be born. Again, no one is "forcing" a woman to do anything. What the laws against abortion are attempting to do is to prevent a woman from taking action against another human being to end its life. That's not the same thing at all as refusing to give your liver to someone who needs it. It would be more equivalent to shooting the person who needs the liver in the head.
quote:She's not actively doing anything and I'll gladly say that. I'm a father to multiple children after all. I know what goes on during pregnancy.
Tell the next pregnant woman you see that she's not doing anything for the child while it's gestating, and let us know how that goes.
quote:Not even that, no. That's the natural state and will happen naturally unless something else interferes with it. It'd be like telling someone they have to breathe. That doesn't even make sense because they breathe naturally unless they die.
Except carry a child to term regardless of her wishes.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to Boatshoes
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we are the party of compassion and rightful spheres of influence for government and charity.
I want some of what you're smoking.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to BamaAtl
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It requires another human's agreeing to give up bodily autonomy in order to continue living.
this isn't a legal standard
and you do realize this standard applies past birth, right?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:21 am to BamaAtl
quote:It used to happen when abortion wasn't an option. You give people a fail safe they will engage in riskier behavior. Take it away and they'll avoid
Good luck building real policy on something that won't happen.
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