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re: When did being a moderate become so frowned upon?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:02 pm to gthog61
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:02 pm to gthog61
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What does a "moderate" stand for?
Whatever he or she wants. That's the beauty of it. We don't run down the list of the liberal/conservative playbook and fall in line like a limp dick.
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:02 pm to Scoop
Reverse post count boom to deflect the fact you are a miserable human being who has wasted 12 years of his life arguing with strangers on the internet.
Cool
Cool
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:05 pm to Texas Weazel
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Using your logic, then being a conservative also means being an unprincipled opportunist since there is no conservative "standard" set by anyone.
How so? Using your logic everyone is a moderate.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:18 pm to Texas Weazel
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Using your logic, then being a conservative also means being an unprincipled opportunist since there is no conservative "standard" set by anyone.
There actually are conservative principles that are fairly consistent.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:20 pm to Groovie
The parties have defined what their positions are on everything and if you don't follow the mantra 100% you're chastised for being the enemy. You could agree with everything else, but fall out of line once and you're out. This is how we look at each other and how we look at our politicians. Thus our very polarized country, and I don't see it getting better any time soon.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:22 pm to Duke
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They don't moderate their principles, their principles lead them to moderated solutions.
Solution to what? "Nudging" their principles into a watered down version? Why does it seem that it's always the conservatives that need to "moderate" their values, when the liberals just shove harder left?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:24 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
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I assume this is directed at liberals and Democrats since moderation is part of conservative philosophy, thinking and lifestyle, hence the root word "conserve"
What a pile of shjt. You keep telling yourself that.
If you get far enough away from the middle on either side, both sides think being a moderate is useless.
And as is well know, on this board, if your a moderate in the rest of the world, you are McCarthy bait on here.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:25 pm to Macbeth
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you are a miserable human being who has wasted 12 years of his life arguing with strangers on the internet.
Thats just dumb. Juvenile and dumb.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:25 pm to Macbeth
Reverse, reverse post count boom to say you don't know shite about me and what I am about so don't draw horseshite conclusions when you have been her 15 minutes.
People are a little more complex than your condescending snap judgement stereotypes.
a-hole.
You won't last here.
People are a little more complex than your condescending snap judgement stereotypes.
a-hole.
You won't last here.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:30 pm to Dale51
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I disagree. The reason being a "moderate" is frowned on, is because, far too often, it is simply a con job to cover what he/she actually stand for...a finger in the wind to gauge what will make their own road easier to travel..plausible deniability for any policy that goes bad. How, exactly, does one "moderate" their claimed principles?
They more than likely are moderate meaning they agree with the left on some issues and the right on some issues but people like yourself will take the instances they don't agree with you and all of the sudden they become an evil prog leftist cuck. They could be pro-gun, pro-life, and pro-immigration enforcement but as soon as they say that global warming is real they become a dirty liberal.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:31 pm to Groovie
When moderates "compromise" with the left, which direction does the country steer?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:33 pm to Dale51
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Solution to what?
*Insert policy debate here*
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Why does it seem that it's always the conservatives that need to "moderate" their values, when the liberals just shove harder left?
Both sides have hardliners that make perfect the enemy of better. I've only pointed out conservatives in this thread because it's easier to find them here.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:33 pm to Macbeth
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Reverse post count boom to deflect the fact you are a miserable human being who has wasted 12 years of his life arguing with strangers on the internet.
Cool
Also, this board over the years had some great lib posters that would go toe to toe and debate.
In 2017 all we are left with is ridiculous people like you that wouldn't know a debate if it hit them over the head with a chair.
All you fricksticks do is post one sentence and then go hide under a blanket.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:33 pm to Dale51
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Its a mask for being an unprincipled opportunist.
You just hate anybody who doesn't think like you. So instead of just hating dems, you basically hate everyone.
That just keeps things simple. It's easier for you that way.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:34 pm to Groovie
when we figured out "moderate" meant to embarrassed to admit you were liberal.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:35 pm to DavidTheGnome
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They more than likely are moderate meaning they agree with the left on some issues and the right on some issues but people like yourself will take the instances they don't agree with you and all of the sudden they become an evil prog leftist cuck. They could be pro-gun, pro-life, and pro-immigration enforcement but as soon as they say that global warming is real they become a dirty liberal.
You may be conflating the average citizen with the active politician. I was referring to politicians. I think you are also confused about people who support the concept of "dangerous" "man made" climate change with being a "dirty liberal. I don't think they are "dirty liberals" I think they are gullible people of any or all stripe.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:38 pm to Duke
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Both sides have hardliners that make perfect the enemy of better. I've only pointed out conservatives in this thread because it's easier to find them here.
That avoids my point.
In your opinion, which way has the country drifted in the last 30 years...left or right..conservative or liberal? Which side has "moderated" more?
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:40 pm to udtiger
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Middle of the road = roadkill
Good... very good!
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:43 pm to VOR
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Reaally?
Reality Winner.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 7:45 pm to Bullethead88
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I assume this is directed at liberals and Democrats since moderation is part of conservative philosophy, thinking and lifestyle, hence the root word "conserve"
What a pile of shjt. You keep telling yourself that.
If you get far enough away from the middle on either side, both sides think being a moderate is useless...
And as is well know, on this board, if your a moderate in the rest of the world, you are McCarthy bait on here.
Conserve is the root word of conservative and it does have an overlapping definition with moderation and liberalism is marked by extremism (an observable fact)
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 4:27 am
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