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re: When China, Russia, and Iran realized, “We’re fricked.”
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:28 am to jizzle6609
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:28 am to jizzle6609
quote:I was at a dinner party recently with a guy who works in the defense industry. He was telling me that when they took apart the Chinese 'observation' balloon that drifted over the US during the Biden admin, they were shocked at the software running the thing. I assumed he meant that it was advanced and sophisticated and he said that it was incredibly primitive and amateurish. According to him every piece of Chinese hardware or software that we've looked at is like this. He said their culture just isn't one that fosters any real innovation, they're entirely dependent on their ability to copy and/or steal the intellectual property of others.
Russia and China are um, just flat out overrated. The are good at propaganda I’ll give them that but the whole communist way of thinking crushes thought and those two counties have been doing it for a long time now.
With all our problems, ridiculously incompetent and corrupt political class, etc, the American culture that rewards excellence that is our advantage and that's not going away any time soon.
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:32 am to Geekboy
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The fact no Americans were killed in this raid is mind boggling.
The story of the chinook pilot getting shot up, still dropping the delta boys off, and flying back all bloody is pretty epic though.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 7:32 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:37 am to czechtiger
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The Iranian/Venezuelan scenarios have yet to play out….how can you be so certain of success?
Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya?
Yemen?
None of those were successful in the final analysis, no?
Not saying there will be success, but people forget that Iranians and Venezuelans know what a sense of democracy is like. May be removed a bit from it but many older memories of it, and it's in their system. Not a sure thing, but helps if done and managed right.
I think Cuba won't be as easy, but reminding Colombia of it won't be hard, cause they are only in their first term of dealing with a leader that would take them down that path. But it's harder now without VE assisting.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:40 am to coolpapaboze
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assumed he meant that it was advanced and sophisticated and he said that it was incredibly primitive and amateurish. According to him every piece of Chinese hardware or software that we've looked at is like this. He said their culture just isn't one that fosters any real innovation, they're entirely dependent on their ability to copy and/or steal the intellectual p
Correct. My whole entire life I’ve argued with people about our superiority. Countless arguments explaining to people that our opponents aren’t what we say they are and we aren’t what we say we are.
We lie both ways and have been for going on 80 years plus.
When we got ahead in tech we would’ve then created jobs for super intellectuals that all they do is figure out how to slow down our opposition in reverse engineering. We create red herrings or heck, we may leave what looks to be a state of the art chopper we “blew up due to malfunction” just so they pick through the wreckage but they don’t realize that before we took off we changed all the electronics and software internally. Basically here have what you already have but you can’t convince yourself it’s the exact same as what you already have so you spin fricking wheels for no reason.
We are very good at what we do. Very good. The most interesting thing to me is the still continued fascination with China and russia when you can clearly see what they are in tv today.
There are levels to this game.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:44 am to HagaDaga
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Not saying there will be success, but people forget that Iranians and Venezuelans know what a sense of democracy is like. May be removed a bit from it but many older memories of it, and it's in their system. Not a sure thing, but helps if done and managed right. I think Cuba won't be as easy, but reminding Colombia of it won't be hard, cause they are only in their first term of dealing with a leader that would take them down that path. But it's harder now without VE assisting.
None of these countries truly matter, not trying to be a dick but they don’t.
You have the largest oil reserve in the known world and your dictator + 1 was kidnapped from inside your country and your opposition didn’t lose anything.
It’s really not something they should be proud of for sure. I’m more concerned with other countries laziness thus forcing us to have to do the heavy lifting.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:48 am to jizzle6609
“ Not trying to brag but we are quite literally the best country ever.”(quote jiz).
Absolutely agree with that. The Fifties rural life that I lived was idyllic. Heartfelt thanks and praise to those that suffered to make it so. But “to whom much is given, much is required”. As the Quantum Computers deliver formerly unimaginable power into the hands of friends and foe alike the nobility of the dreams upon which this Country was founded demands that we clean up the utter rot in our own political class and culture. Lest we win the “hearts and minds “ of the masses - admittedly a high bar given the delusion and propaganda - we risk going the “let them eat cake” route and the coming AI powers being unleashed upon those who wield power, for perceived corruption and indifference.
There is an old saying about “the bigger they are the harder they fall”, and Americans should well remember that it was their Christian Faith that was the Foundation of our extraordinary success and blessings. “Inalienable Rights from GOD”. The very fact that our highest politicians go to DC and become wealthy beyond their “public service “ salaries, and much less like overt and perverse grifters like the Biden’s, Pelosis, McConnells, MTG, Omar and countless others demands that “the love of money “ be rejected as the first principle of our political impetus. Or we can stand our status quo ground until the day “when they shout peace and prosperity, but sudden destruction cometh”. And WE as power drunken, hypocrites fulfill the painful scenarios in the Biblical Eschatological narrative.
I rejoice that the soulless Marxists are at bay, but we had better have the blessing of the Good Lord if we hope to achieve Trump’s “better than ever before “ dream, or even long endure.
Absolutely agree with that. The Fifties rural life that I lived was idyllic. Heartfelt thanks and praise to those that suffered to make it so. But “to whom much is given, much is required”. As the Quantum Computers deliver formerly unimaginable power into the hands of friends and foe alike the nobility of the dreams upon which this Country was founded demands that we clean up the utter rot in our own political class and culture. Lest we win the “hearts and minds “ of the masses - admittedly a high bar given the delusion and propaganda - we risk going the “let them eat cake” route and the coming AI powers being unleashed upon those who wield power, for perceived corruption and indifference.
There is an old saying about “the bigger they are the harder they fall”, and Americans should well remember that it was their Christian Faith that was the Foundation of our extraordinary success and blessings. “Inalienable Rights from GOD”. The very fact that our highest politicians go to DC and become wealthy beyond their “public service “ salaries, and much less like overt and perverse grifters like the Biden’s, Pelosis, McConnells, MTG, Omar and countless others demands that “the love of money “ be rejected as the first principle of our political impetus. Or we can stand our status quo ground until the day “when they shout peace and prosperity, but sudden destruction cometh”. And WE as power drunken, hypocrites fulfill the painful scenarios in the Biblical Eschatological narrative.
I rejoice that the soulless Marxists are at bay, but we had better have the blessing of the Good Lord if we hope to achieve Trump’s “better than ever before “ dream, or even long endure.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:49 am to jizzle6609
the US Military has some gigantic balls …. it’s the people, not entirely the tech
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 8:03 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:51 am to Geekboy
Trump could arrest Satan and some judge would still order him to release him.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:52 am to jizzle6609
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There are levels to this game.
In special ops and intel, when you're surgically performing small operations and maneuvers. US has the best of everything.
When it comes to actual large scale warfare I'm 110% certain we're going to find out have systemic problems that will make it unfeasible to perform large combat operations. In fact, I don't think US goes anywhere unless they're positive they can wrap it up quickly, which currently is limited to special ops type missions.
Nobody questioned US ability to kidnap a 3rd world dictator after bribing his inner circle.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 7:54 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:53 am to czechtiger
I’d first have to say us peons have no clue what’s really in American arsenal, including infrastructure demolishing electronics. We may not see what’s capable until absolutely necessary in usages. War should be an overwhelming force in the quickest possible time but that’s not what MIC pushes to our leaders but rather a long term so pockets can get filled.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:53 am to jizzle6609
They obviously matter if we are going in and doing what we are doing there.
You may not like them, but saying they they don't matter is obviously wrong.
You may not like them, but saying they they don't matter is obviously wrong.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:58 am to RCDfan1950
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I rejoice that the soulless Marxists are at bay, but we had better have the blessing of the Good Lord if we hope to achieve Trump’s “better than ever before “ dream, or even long endure.
One factor separates us from everyone else, dna. Savage fricking dna.
Every man here that’s still alive had to have some sawed off, savage, God given mental toughness we probably cannot even comprehend relatives.
Anyways, the sperms that made those people somehow survived until today. There’s no other humans on this earth that can say this ancestors traveled across the entire ocean with no fricking clue if/when they would ever see land again and they still got on that fricking boat.
The amount of courage even our women had was just other worldly in my opinion.
Anyways, that’s what we are made of.
Now show me yours?
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:01 am to HagaDaga
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You may not like them, but saying they they don't matter is obviously wrong.
Why would I not like them? I love them. Many great nights but some poor decision making was made possible by these folks. I don’t pretend to act like drugs don’t make economic wheels turn in our country. If we took all the drugs out we would have riots, massive amounts of seizures, many deaths and more violence than we’ve ever seen.
I’m literally just saying if you cannot defend just 1 oil reserve you are insignificant in the overall scheme of how things play out and it’s just a fact. If you can’t defend your own your reserve can you really run an entire country?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:06 am to jizzle6609
I'm confused about how we got from they "don't matter" to "they can't defend themselves". 2 different conversations imo, and my initial post had nothing to do with either.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:08 am to HagaDaga
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I'm confused about how we got from they "don't matter" to "they can't defend themselves". 2 different conversations imo, and my initial post
Both are facts.
Sorry for ruining your black panther party.
Have a good day.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:12 am to jizzle6609
Sure they both can be facts. Just to early to be this confused I guess. 
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Sorry for ruining your black panther party.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:26 am to jizzle6609
Agreed, Jiz. Genes matter and I do believe that we are “God’s Chosen “. And that with the Good Lord’s help we again will rise to the occasion.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:28 am to czechtiger
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1) The Oreschnik hypersonic missile is better than anything in the US arsenal, correct?
Russia definition of hypersonic missile makes any ballistic missile hypersonic. It's only hypersonic because of the earth's gravity. It's actually old technology.
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2) The Russians have weathered the sanctions and the Ukraine war quite well, it seems to me. Their army has more soldiers now than at the beginning of the war and they are combat hardened.
Not really, their economy is seriously screwed up. Cost to produce their oil is very high. They have cash flow but not making serious money since traders panicked in the spring of 2022. Their real cash cow was refined products and mostly to the EU. Nordstream had never paid off its cost to build.
Dead men are combat hardened by it you believe this.
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3) The Iranian/Venezuelan scenarios have yet to play out….how can you be so certain of success?
Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya?
Yemen?
None of those were successful in the final analysis, no?
Iraq was foolish to rush in and topple Saddam when we could just castrate him instead. This is what we are doing in Venezuela. Libya was really a French thing and stupid. Yes, the US participated. Iran has been a thorn in the side of the world for 47 years. It's a Russian and Chinese ally.
Thus far, Columbia's lefty president caved to Trumps "requests" So has Venezuela thus far and IMMEDIATELY. Yemen is neutralized with Iran.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:37 am to AFstAF
Per friends who worked in Russia to restore its oil production, the average Russian is the most piss poor hand compared to any other. Russian manned rigs took 3-4X as long just to trip pipe as the Canadian crews did with the same model drilling rigs with the same supplies in the same field.
The equipment and technology for Sakhalin 1 came almost exclusively from Louisiana for Arctic class, at that. Russia couldn't do it, or even come close. Russian refineries are suffering more from lack of competent labor and parts to make repairs as things wear. They cannot even make the catalysts required for refining processes. Oh they can get substandard Chinese supplies.
The equipment and technology for Sakhalin 1 came almost exclusively from Louisiana for Arctic class, at that. Russia couldn't do it, or even come close. Russian refineries are suffering more from lack of competent labor and parts to make repairs as things wear. They cannot even make the catalysts required for refining processes. Oh they can get substandard Chinese supplies.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:42 am to jizzle6609
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When we got ahead in tech we would’ve then created jobs for super intellectuals that all they do is figure out how to slow down our opposition in reverse engineering. We create red herrings or heck, we may leave what looks to be a state of the art chopper we “blew up due to malfunction” just so they pick through the wreckage but they don’t realize that before we took off we changed all the electronics and software internally. Basically here have what you already have but you can’t convince yourself it’s the exact same as what you already have so you spin fricking wheels for no reason.
Chinese tech and equipment has only be saleable to the world due heavy subsidization to undercut the global market. No, it is not very good or well made.
Take the issue over Rare Earth Minerals. The US was actually producing them 20+ years ago. However, China subsidizes that industry by 2X and more, the cost so that they undercut the market bigtime. It's neither cheap labor or lack of environmental controls which gave them the market. Those to this should help but that still doesn't give them any market share other than internally.
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