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re: What’s The True Reasoning For The Democrat’s Shutting The Gov Down Over Border Security?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:32 pm to NIH
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:32 pm to NIH
I'm for welfare reform across the board
I'm against illegal immigration
Add it up
Thinking a wall is a dumb, wasteful vanity project boondoggle is not equal to being muh open borders
But at the end of the day, wall or no wall isn't going to bother me too much either way
I'm against illegal immigration
Add it up
Thinking a wall is a dumb, wasteful vanity project boondoggle is not equal to being muh open borders
But at the end of the day, wall or no wall isn't going to bother me too much either way
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:33 pm to JuiceTerry
I don’t think a wall would be necessary at all if any politician was serious about curbing illegal hiring or entitlement reform
Sadly, they are not
And Dems want their third world voters
Sadly, they are not
And Dems want their third world voters
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:34 pm to BeeFense5
The transformation from "illegal immigration" and "you have to go home" to "border security" and "islamic extremists" is hilarious to watch
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:35 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
I'm against illegal immigration
Add it up
Thinking a wall is a dumb, wasteful vanity project boondoggle is not equal to being muh open borders
But at the end of the day, wall or no wall isn't going to bother too much me either way
that is most democrats position.
Without making it a felony to hire one, this wall is not more than stagecraft.
How many millions already here?
What is plan?
Wall them in.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:38 pm to CelticDog
A plan that only targets employers isn’t a serious plan and you know it
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:40 pm to NIH
It’s obvious they want to go after the employers not because of illegal
Immigration, but to punish the “wealthy”. I don’t buy it from them.
Immigration, but to punish the “wealthy”. I don’t buy it from them.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:40 pm to BeeFense5
quote:
spin doesn’t work in reality
You seem to have a problem discerning "spin" from "reality".
This is spin:
quote:
democrat shutdown of the government
This is reality:
quote:
“I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. … I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it.”
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:42 pm to BeeFense5
Stop a meaningless win for Trump.
Plus, they know the media won't point out that the liberals are essentially shutting the government down for illegal immigrants who haven't even started their journey yet.
And the wall will take years to build so we are talking about something that won't even begin to curtail illegal immigration for years to come.
Should be pretty easy for the media to point out this FACT. Democrats are shutting the government down to aid people who won't even leave for the US for several years.
All to keep a meaningless victory from Trump.
Plus, they know the media won't point out that the liberals are essentially shutting the government down for illegal immigrants who haven't even started their journey yet.
And the wall will take years to build so we are talking about something that won't even begin to curtail illegal immigration for years to come.
Should be pretty easy for the media to point out this FACT. Democrats are shutting the government down to aid people who won't even leave for the US for several years.
All to keep a meaningless victory from Trump.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:43 pm to BeeFense5
Dems need illegal votes. That's all it's about. They DGAF about security.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:43 pm to BeeFense5
Exactly
Probably the majority of the ones crossing are looking to work, but there’s still a large percentage that knows the entitlement system here is better than life in whatever country they came from
And they’ll vote accordingly
Probably the majority of the ones crossing are looking to work, but there’s still a large percentage that knows the entitlement system here is better than life in whatever country they came from
And they’ll vote accordingly
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:43 pm to BeeFense5
quote:
It’s obvious they want to go after the employers not because of illegal
Immigration, but to punish the “wealthy”. I don’t buy it from them.
The point is, they aren't going after the employers
Mainly because they are wealthy
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:45 pm to NIH
CelticDog will never agree to curtail entitlements. So that tells you all you need to know about his motives for his “solution” to illegal immigration.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:46 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
Not nearly as much as treating the disease instead of the symptom
If you sever an artery you will bleed out unless you CLOSE it.
quote:
You go hard on enforcement of existing laws against employing illegals, and they have no incentive to come here
How do you go hard on enforcement when you have Democratic sanctuary cities they flock too?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:48 pm to JuiceTerry
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Mainly because they are wealthy
So your “solution” to illegal immigration is predicated on class envy?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:52 pm to BeeFense5
quote:Good lord
So your “solution” to illegal immigration is predicated on class envy?
I think it would be a good idea to hold people accountable under the law regardless of their "class"
I don't understand how you come up with some of your non sequiturs
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:54 pm to BeeFense5
Just general stupidity. Us vs them, no one cares about the country anymore.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:54 pm to JuiceTerry
What’s your view on sanctuary cities and their disregard for federal law, Mr law man?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:54 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
I think it would be a good idea to hold people accountable under the law regardless of their "class"
Do you think federal funds should be withheld from "sanctuary cities"? If you are for punishing employers surely you're for punishing cities who harbor them?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:54 pm to Lg
quote:How does a wall keep them out of sanctuary cities?
How do you go hard on enforcement when you have Democratic sanctuary cities they flock too?
I said go hard on enforcement, so you could probably guess how I think about sanctuary cities
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:59 pm to Lapaz
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We have border security, and Democrats are willing to spend more on that, just not a symbolic, expensive, impractical and nearly useless wall.
Please for the love of God provide one expert with experience that actually says a border wall is “useless”! I keep hearing this talking point but not one real expert have I heard say that!
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