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re: What's the Left's next big SJW plight?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:16 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:16 am to FooManChoo
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My comment on hedonism was in direct response to Machine's comment about happiness.
Ok, but by the same token, not seeking God's approval for happiness is also not the same thing as unfettered pleasure-seeking. You can hold yourself to standards of indulgence without worry about higher powers.
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:17 am to FooManChoo
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Your definition of "waste of life" is terrible and I feel sorry for you.
nah, i spent the first 25 years of my life indoctrinated into the same line of thinking as you. if it takes fear of hellfire and eternal damnation to make you treat your fellow man decently, so be it. some people are capable of being good people without fear of retribution
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:17 am to Alternative Facts
Bold Prediction: Women carried the baby for 9 months, they have the right to make all major choices regarding the now born child. Name, gender, and whether or not the father can be involved at all
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:17 am to Alternative Facts
cis-sexism
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:23 am to cahoots
quote:That's true but I was talking about happiness being the standard that people should live by vs. seeking the glory of God, which is what Christians are supposed to do. I don't care about the "permission" part because I'm trying to discuss something deeper than that.
Ok, but by the same token, not seeking God's approval for happiness is also not the same thing as unfettered pleasure-seeking. You can hold yourself to standards of indulgence without worry about higher powers.
Ever heard the term "do what feels good"? That's essentially what constitutes happiness in today's world. Pleasure (physical or emotional) is the standard for what is morally good and pain is the standard for what is morally bad. Hedonism is "the pursuit of pleasure and self-indulgence", and I think that accurately describes what we see in our culture today. That's what I was addressing when I mentioned hedonism in response to Machine's "happiness".
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:24 am to Machine
quote:I understand this acutely since I don't do what I do out of fear of hell or retribution. Maybe you were taught that but that's not what the motivation of a Christian should be.
nah, i spent the first 25 years of my life indoctrinated into the same line of thinking as you. if it takes fear of hellfire and eternal damnation to make you treat your fellow man decently, so be it. some people are capable of being good people without fear of retribution
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:31 am to Ross
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fat acceptance
I think this is the next one they will try.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:32 am to FooManChoo
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Your definition of "waste of life" is terrible and I feel sorry for you.
Someone with the other poster's view has a veil over their eyes and will never understand what we know to be true until that veil is lifted, if it hopefully is in time.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:36 am to Alternative Facts
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What's the Left's next big SJW plight?
I don't know specifically, but I can 100% assure you that there will be one.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:40 am to FooManChoo
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That's true but I was talking about happiness being the standard that people should live by vs. seeking the glory of God, which is what Christians are supposed to do.
I hear a lot of people say that they weren't truly happy with themselves until they found God, or something of the like. It turns out that finding purpose through religion can release dopamine too, just like anything else. I would argue that a lot of religious people are subconsciously pleasure-seeking too, even if they're doing so with deference to a higher power.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:40 am to Machine
People are hard wired for evil. But also hard-wired for altruism . Both are reinforced by wise moral instruction and undermined by lazy going- through- the -motions, insincere religious regurgitation . One can be a virtuous atheist or an evil Christian. I will take my chances with any man who practices personal humility and observes the Christian Golden Rule ( which is virtually universal).
Thus imho, whether it be philosophy, meditation, walks in nature, good works in society, Christianity, Buddhism ( of which I am a practitioner) - the man who reflects upon his nature the most seriously, And endeavors to improve himself, is the most likely to be what you call " a good man".
SJW - Progressivism is the opposite of " being a good man". It is a Fundamentalist orthodoxy that actively creates victims, makes society less cohesive, and is more in line with a fraudulent televangelist fleecing the old and infirm than any kind of sincere expression of virtue or altruism.
Thus imho, whether it be philosophy, meditation, walks in nature, good works in society, Christianity, Buddhism ( of which I am a practitioner) - the man who reflects upon his nature the most seriously, And endeavors to improve himself, is the most likely to be what you call " a good man".
SJW - Progressivism is the opposite of " being a good man". It is a Fundamentalist orthodoxy that actively creates victims, makes society less cohesive, and is more in line with a fraudulent televangelist fleecing the old and infirm than any kind of sincere expression of virtue or altruism.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:42 am to Crimson1st
quote:their is no one path to spiritual enlightenment. i know many hold it to be true, but it simply isn't
Someone with the other poster's view has a veil over their eyes and will never understand what we know to be true until that veil is lifted, if it hopefully is in time.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:44 am to Machine
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nah, i spent the first 25 years of my life indoctrinated into the same line of thinking as you. if it takes fear of hellfire and eternal damnation to make you treat your fellow man decently, so be it
Where ever you went for 25 years to be "indoctrinated" did a piss poor job if your take here is the only take away you got from it. If taught properly, you would have loved Jesus proactively and followed his teachings as best you could because that would have been your desire based off what he did and continually does for you. Christians don't act for the good based off of fear of Hellfire. You are fully mischaracterizing what a true faith brings to the table. Furthermore, you ability to cash in your chips and leave the faith based off your own desires show that you are not beholden to be in the fold and you are never prisoner to these teachings. Non-cult Christianity gives you the freedom to believe or not believe which is all based on your free choice and conscience so don't make inaccurate portrayals such as "indoctrination" as if you aren't free to ignore the teachings on your own accord.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:47 am to Lsupimp
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People are hard wired for evil. But also hard-wired for altruism . Both are reinforced by wise moral instruction and undermined by lazy going- through- the -motions, insincere religious regurgitation . One can be a virtuous atheist or an evil Christian. I will take my chances with any man who practices personal humility and observes the Christian Golden Rule ( which is virtually universal).
Thus imho, whether it be philosophy, meditation, walks in nature, good works in society, Christianity, Buddhism ( of which I am a practitioner) - the man who reflects upon his nature the most seriously, And endeavors to improve himself, is the most likely to be what you call " a good man".
SJW - Progressivism is the opposite of " being a good man". It is a Fundamentalist orthodoxy that actively creates victims, makes society less cohesive, and is more in line with a fraudulent televangelist fleecing the old and infirm than any kind of sincere expression of virtue or altruism.
i suppose my point of view can be taken from Socrates: "I know that i know nothing"
to listen to people say so definitely that their religion is the way is disheartening to me. on par with ants explaining the relationship of space and time.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:49 am to Lsupimp
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Christian Golden Rule
Only the version Christians adopted, or any?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:49 am to Machine
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their is no one path to spiritual enlightenment. i know many hold it to be true, but it simply isn't
You are free to feel this way, this is your opinion. Many hold it to be true because it is THEIR opinion as well. In the end, that 's what faith is, an individual opinion based off personal knowledge so for you to say "but it simply isn't" is a statement of fact but it is only underwritten by opinion so in essence it is still opinion. I could say "I have a million dollars" but in fact if I only have $400 in the bank...no matter what I said, it is only underwritten by $400 so that is the bottom line.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:50 am to Alternative Facts
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What's the Left's next big SJW plight? by Alternative Facts
This one is so easy to call I'm almost embarrassed for calling it a "prediction".
All you need to know is that liberals LOVE to create victim classes that are difficult to define. Oh, "blacks" make an OK victim class but with odd exceptions, pretty much everyone knows if they're black or not. No ability to take advantage of people self selecting themselves as victims.
With that in mind, the next "victim class" will be the overweight. It's not even close.
Look for the left to try and ban discrimination based on weight at their earliest opportunity.
Which, of course, will be IMPOSSIBLE to defend oneself against!
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:52 am to Alternative Facts
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What's the Left's next big SJW plight?
Funding for surgery reversals.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:52 am to Crimson1st
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Non-cult Christianity gives you the freedom to believe or not believe which is all based on your free choice and conscience so don't make inaccurate portrayals such as "indoctrination" as if you aren't free to ignore the teachings on your own accord.
how many accounts of Jesus outside the NT have you read? how much of the apocrypha? how many of the works that humans determined to be not worthy of making the bible, hundreds of years after the death of Jesus, have you read? because when you say things like "non-cult Christinaity" you seem to imply because you follow the book compiled 300 years after Jesus' death, you aren't the crazy one...
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:54 am to Alternative Facts
Pedo normalization has already begun.
Toddlers understand consent explains gay man on his "queer kid stuff" YouTube channel
"if you've ever ordered pizza you understand consent"
"I'm not ashamed of being attracted to kids as young as 3". What a virtuous hero. How brave are pedos for not raping children? Who wouldn't hire this person to be their babysitter?
LINK
Toddlers understand consent explains gay man on his "queer kid stuff" YouTube channel
"if you've ever ordered pizza you understand consent"
"I'm not ashamed of being attracted to kids as young as 3". What a virtuous hero. How brave are pedos for not raping children? Who wouldn't hire this person to be their babysitter?
LINK
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