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re: What’s the functional purpose of the Army and Marines at this point?

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Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:02 pm to
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I’m specifically referring to large numbers from the Army/Marines being deployed.
me too
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38453 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:02 pm to
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Yep. The politicians are terrified of using ground forces again. Citizens have been conditioned that “boots on the ground” is about as equivalent as launching a nuclear warhead.


Modern Americans don’t have the willpower to fight a real war which is why we haven’t fought a real war since WWII.

The Iran problem is super easy to fix you you stop pussyfooting around and do the things necessary to win, but “that’s immoral” and “that’s a “war crime”

No. Bitch. The only crime in war is forcing the combatants to hold a leg and arm behind their back and try to fight a war with muh feelz.

When you wage war you wage absolute war. You make it so absolutely overwhelmingly horrible for the other side to exist that they cry mommy. And if they don’t cry mommy you kill them all until someone finally steps up and does cry mommy.

Anything less is a crime that simply drags a war on for years and years and increases the cost, suffering, and destruction that could have been ended in months.


Dead sons can’t grow up to avenge dead fathers. That’s how you end the cycle.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10331 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:02 pm to
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What do you base this assertion on?


By paying attention to politics. Pretty easy.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:02 pm to
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I said in OP outside of deterrence
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10331 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:03 pm to
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Modern Americans don’t have the willpower to fight a real war which is why we haven’t fought a real war since WWII. The Iran problem is super easy to fix you you stop pussyfooting around and do the things necessary to win, but “that’s immoral” and “that’s a “war crime”


I agree.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:04 pm to
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By paying attention to politics. Pretty easy.
Then it should be easy to tell me.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10331 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:04 pm to
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Then it should be easy to tell me.


It’s pretty self explanatory.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:05 pm to
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It’s pretty self explanatory.
Yet you can't explain it.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
2037 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:06 pm to
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Outside of the US being invaded (won’t ever happen), we won’t have ground forces in a war again. Technology will catch up and surpass the need for them anyway.


Again... YOU DON'T KNOW.

Technology has weak points. As pointed out earlier, an EMP or carrington level CME would render all technology useless. The Army is pushing to strengthen Soldiers' analog skills in case of such an event.

When we had air supremacy over Germany in WWII, we still had to mass ground forces to secure victory.

You can't win a war without controlling the ground.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10331 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:07 pm to
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Yet you can't explain it.


Shouldn’t have to explain the current political landscape to anyone who pays attention.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10331 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Again... YOU DON'T KNOW. Technology has weak points. As pointed out earlier, an EMP or carrington level CME would render all technology useless. The Army is pushing to strengthen Soldiers' analog skills in case of such an event. When we had air supremacy over Germany in WWII, we still had to mass ground forces to secure victory. You can't win a war without controlling the ground.


I agree completely. Our problem is we don’t have the willpower politically to deploy ground forces again.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Shouldn’t have to explain the current political landscape to anyone who pays attention.
Oh, I know what you're basing it on. I just want to see you type something that stupid out.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10851 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:09 pm to
Where do you people come from?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10331 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:09 pm to
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Oh, I know what you're basing it on. I just want to see you type something that stupid out.


Oh, I know that you’re pretending to not understand.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173659 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:09 pm to
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Modern Americans don’t have the willpower to fight a real war which is why we haven’t fought a real war since WWII.

The Iran problem is super easy to fix you you stop pussyfooting around and do the things necessary to win, but “that’s immoral” and “that’s a “war crime”

No. Bitch. The only crime in war is forcing the combatants to hold a leg and arm behind their back and try to fight a war with muh feelz.

When you wage war you wage absolute war. You make it so absolutely overwhelmingly horrible for the other side to exist that they cry mommy. And if they don’t cry mommy you kill them all until someone finally steps up and does cry mommy.

Anything less is a crime that simply drags a war on for years and years and increases the cost, suffering, and destruction that could have been ended in months.


History would suggest that you have a point but aren't completely right here. We backed the Iraqis in a brutal war against the Iranians that lasted almost a decade. We gave them munitions and even chemical weapons. The Iranians by moderate estimates lost 750K people in that war. They're still standing and they're still a problem. Most of their population doesn't support the regime. How severe are you willing to take things against a regime that does not care about their people? What do civilians being massacred get you?

I actually like you and don't think you're a moron like a lot of the clowns here. But how far are you willing to go? Is 3 million civilian deaths justifiable?
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
4255 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:11 pm to
How do you think Maduro was grabbed, drones?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:11 pm to
So you're basing your idiotic theory that Americans will never support "boots on the ground" and we no longer need ground forces solely on the fact that they don't support them in Iran. That about right?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38453 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:12 pm to
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How severe are you willing to take things against a regime that does not care about their people? What do civilians being massacred get you?


Ask Japan.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
2037 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:13 pm to
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I agree completely. Our problem is we don’t have the willpower politically to deploy ground forces again.


People thought that before both WWI and WWII.

"Political willpower" is not cemented permanently. Politics is one of the most fickle and unpredictable things on earth.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37998 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:14 pm to
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EMP won't take out my solid state Chromebook.... Maybe.

I wish we knew. Data on it is pure conjecture and an absolute crapshoot. They're like, "yeah, it'll probably be fried but maybe not".

I'm just assuming that everything will be fried and preparing accordingly. I've got plenty of stuff stowed away in a couple of homemade Faraday Cages like comms and some med equipment, just in case. But whatever doesn't get fried outside of that (if anything), I'll just consider it a bonus. I do have one means of automotive conveyance that should be fine no matter what, but I'll be king of the world if the "EMP protection" on the S×S actually works.
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