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re: what's changed in this country

Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:58 am to
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 11:58 am to
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Feminism happened. aka The pussification of America


This can't be stated strongly enough.

The feminization of society has taken off at light speed the past 20 years.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260423 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:01 pm to
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American culture is racing to the bottom. Whether it is just the old-fashioned "eye test" or by measuring social pathologies or public behavior, how we dress or talk in public, the state of marriage and the family, the repudiation of traditional values, moral relativism everywhere, moral confusion about very simple things, the quality of our art, or anti-anxiety medications, whatever. Violence (suicide murder) tends to "cluster" , that is one event motivates the next and it becomes part of the culture. We have an established American archetype now-"the school shooter" and it is just another dysfunctional and violent expression of our culture. It's who we are.


100% truth. The rush to destroy traditional values has led to the idea that every pathological behavior is really caused by being a victim. The copy cat culture looks for extreme and disgusting outlets to garner attention. We've normalized shitty behavior
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:01 pm to
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quote:
Violent music
Violent first shooter video games
Nah


Absolutely


With all due respect, I disagree 100%. I played the most violent video games imaginable and Love violent movies. I am the biggest pacifist imaginable.

My 9yo son and I enjoy playing Mortal Kombat with his favorite move being a sagittal split of his opponent's body.

I am not worried about him becoming a school shooter.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12123 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Drugging kids 
Violent music 
Violent first shooter video games 
Lack of parental involvement 
Giving school shooters too much attention 
Culture if victimization 
The age of social retardation via attention whoring.





This..especially drugging most kids instead of whipping the crap out of them. Brain structures are changed with pharma drugs for ADD/anxiety/depression at early ages given so parents dont have to parent. Same with video games....I dont feel like parenting so watch this, or have whatever you ask for so you will shut up, or go ahead and talk back and act rude with no consequences. It is a parental problem AND a drug problem.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78582 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:03 pm to
You are what you eat. You become what you consume. Physically, mentally, spiritually. We have thousands of years of data on this. Some cultures really do spin off the rails.

On the personal level we all make decisions on what we want for our lives. You may have a strong commitment to consume wholesome food and read The Great Books and familiarize yourself with philosophy and pursue human truth. Your neighbor might lead a life of quiet desperation, fueling his resentments daily on social media, listening to death metal, "killing" people in video games and in his fantasies, fricking over people, never having even pondered the Social Contract or ethical living or personal responsibility, collecting guns, nursing revenge fantasies.

Whatever that second category is, it is growing. I propose that ALL these factors combined has led us to this point. It's not one thing or a half dozen things, it's this big disorganized and confusing moral soup we are in. This is a VERY sick culture. We are in need of some form of Cultural Renewal.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:07 pm to
Lot's of things.

Kids have become entitled, and when not given their way act out. Some to the extreme.

Kids are taught not to excel, but merely arrive and you are as good as everyone else and get a trophy.

Parenting has fallen short.

Social media has lead to even more bullying and social pressure on kids far to young to handle the pressure of a constant eye on their life.

Morality has faded. From abortion being about "woman's bodies" and not a dead baby. To single parenting being glorified by Hollywood. We have destroyed the basics of the nuclear family. Two parent households are now "traditional", instead of common. I will say two parents, even gay, are also okay households. I know a few gay couples, and all seem to have very strong households, despite the abnormal setting. My nephews are all in football, two play baseball, all make great grades. Have two mom's. Two parents are better than one. Simple as that.

Kids aren't beaten when they act up. You know why I didn't act up in school? Because my Mom would beat the shite out of me. Lesson learned. Parents parent to be friends now. Not parents. Unacceptable.

America has destroyed morality, the family, and discipline. We are going to have a very dark period in our history soon.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260423 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:07 pm to
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With all due respect, I disagree 100%. I played the most violent video games imaginable and Love violent movies. I am the biggest pacifist imaginable.


Not everyone is negatively affected but for many kids who have social problems, chasing people around with an AR-15 on screen all day fricks with their psyche. Garbage in, garbage out.
Posted by geauxdaddy72
Shreveport,La
Member since Sep 2008
885 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:08 pm to
It’s a combination of things. Lack of family structure and parents raising children to be responsible and respectful adults. Lack of faith in today’s society is troubling. The Church teaches not only to love yourself but to love others. Television is extremely corrupt. Every channel is filled with egotistical, self serving people that are hell bent on being disruptive. I see more and more satanic images that have become bold with their messaging. Last, as a young adult I would have argued against the effect of violent video games but they have become way more violent and graphic. My sons attitude and demeanor was different after playing them for years. About a year ago I took them from him and he has become less aggressive and more like himself again. At this point I’m not sure if we can get back what’s been taken. This society of it’s everyone else’s fault will never self correct but only get worse...
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:11 pm to
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My 9yo son and I enjoy playing Mortal Kombat with his favorite move being a sagittal split of his opponent's body.

I am not worried about him becoming a school shooter.

There’s an entire area of child development that deals with resiliency—why some kids are able to escape the effects of so-called negative environments and influences and others are not.

Without knowing you, my bet is that your son is loved, cared for, and feels safe.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:12 pm to
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Absolutely
Violent music was here way before these mass shootings started occurring. If that was the case, then late 80's/early 90's would've been the time for mass shootings

First person shooters maybe. The culture surrounding first person shooters is what has me believe otherwise though. Those games reward steady grinding, not instant gratification. I know that sounds dumb, but most FPS games are team driven games designed to carry out objectives based on group oriented success. I don't see lone wolf types being born from that IMO
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:12 pm to
Proliferation of TV evangelists teaches kids at an early age that our holy men are even corrupt & immoral. Kids are smarter & better informed. We were not permanently at war back in the day. The pharmaceutical industry had not yet convinced our medicine men that drugs cure everything. Segregation and Jim Crow along with other barriers kept minorities apart from white folk. We had leaders like Truman and Eisenhower who were decent men with common sense.

Essentially, the general public was more ignorant. We had no idea that the CIA was over-throwing governments in the Middle East or deliberately infecting Central American populations as well as black Americans with syphilis.

There was no internet. Technology was an IBM Selectric. We waited until 5:30 pm to get 30 minutes of national news. There are lots of changes and we're never going back to that point in time.

Btw, when Charles Whitman was picking off students on the UT campus back in the 60's, the cops in Austin weren't equipped with a lot of firepower to shoot back at a guy 27 stories away. At least one student ran to his pickup and brought out his deer rifle with a scope to shoot back.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:14 pm to
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Not everyone is negatively affected but for many kids who have social problems, chasing people around with an AR-15 on screen all day fricks with their psyche. Garbage in, garbage out.
Those same kids are probably going to worldstar, liveleak, and 4chan. I'm willing to bet those are way more influential.

I won't argue about it anymore though. We just differ on the magnitude of it really.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:19 pm to
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There’s an entire area of child development that deals with resiliency—why some kids are able to escape the effects of so-called negative environments and influences and others are not.

Without knowing you, my bet is that your son is loved, cared for, and feels safe.
Right, which is the real problem of the disintegrating family unit.

it's so weird...I'll get upvoted for saying guns are inanimate objects they don't kill people, then downvoted for saying games and music are the same damn thing.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17710 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
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When I was in hs ( although its been years) I could go out in the parking lot and see guns hanging in racks in the back window of pu trucks. Some were even unlocked. We had no school shootings. When I turns 18 I would go in the local gun shop and buy long guns or if I wanted a handgun I would get my brother to buy it for me. I never thought about shooting anyone. So how are we here where we are today? I


Conservatives who ran and taught in the school systems were slowly replaced by progressives who catered to the lowest common denominator. Achievement, greatness, and valor were replaced with the care for self esteem and other feel good isms. The slippery slope continued until all those w/ means left the public system and paid their own way. Now you're left w/ a cesspool run by Lenin lemmings. The progs own the trashy culture and decayed moral values that have led us down this road. Until they are totally defeated it won't change.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260423 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:21 pm to
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I won't argue about it anymore though. We just differ on the magnitude of it really.


If you think it doesn't negatively affect some kids, were on different planets.

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Another perspective, one less entrenched in debates over the methodology of studying the behavioral effects of video games, comes from Gary Slutkin, the founder of Cure Violence, an organization that has successfully reduced gun violence in parts of Baltimore and Chicago. Accustomed to working in communities where physical violence is an everyday part of life, Slutkin doesn’t think that virtual violence is a cause in itself, but neither does he think it’s harmless. Instead, he thinks the games make people more susceptible to becoming violent.


quote:

The military knows this very well,” Slutkin says, noting the U.S. military’s use of video games in training soldiers, partly to break down their instinctive repulsion to killing. To Slutkin, what’s known about our brains is justification for concern: Humans are social, highly conditioned creatures who learn how to behave by watching what’s around us, turning social messages into so-called scripts that play in our minds as we engage the world.


LINK

Watching violence doesn't make people commit violence, however it breaks down resistance and desensitizes. Playing first shooter games moreso. Well adjusted kids probably have no issues but we have a world in which increasingly kids are not so well adjusted.

Pop culture is a symptom of a very ill society.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
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You are what you eat. You become what you consume. Physically, mentally, spiritually. We have thousands of years of data on this. Some cultures really do spin off the rails.
I hear ya. But are you saying white people can't handle ourselves based on our surroundings? Because in this case, most mass school shooters are white.

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Your neighbor might lead a life of quiet desperation, fueling his resentments daily on social media, listening to death metal, "killing" people in video games and in his fantasies, fricking over people, never having even pondered the Social Contract or ethical living or personal responsibility, collecting guns, nursing revenge fantasies.
He might, but I'm not wanting to ban them for it. We've already tried in the music genre anyways, with Tipper Gore and the PMRC. I'm not a fan of violating our freedoms of expression.

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Whatever that second category is, it is growing. I propose that ALL these factors combined has led us to this point. It's not one thing or a half dozen things, it's this big disorganized and confusing moral soup we are in.
Of course, we just differ on the level of certain things, it's all good
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260423 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:27 pm to
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I'm not a fan of violating our freedoms of expression.



This hasn't been suggested
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:29 pm to
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We've normalized shitty behavior






We always have. It used to be normal to enslave a race of people. It used to be normal to turn a blind eye to spousal abuse and child abuse. It used to be normal to ignore male infidelity in marriages. It used to be normal to deny basic civil rights to blacks, women, homosexuals, etc. It used to be normal to allow and applaud police brutality. It used to be normal to ship little Annie off to live with family somewhere else if she came down pregnant before marriage.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:31 pm to
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If you think it doesn't negatively affect some kids, were on different planets.
I said we differ on the magnitude of it. I don't think it belongs in the rest of your list, of which I agree.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
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we have been turned over to suffer the consequences of our wickedness as a society
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