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re: What would have to come out for you to say Trump had committed an impeachable offense?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:36 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:36 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
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You are basing all this off the Taylor testimony which hasn’t been officially released and is purely here say.
1. There wasn’t Quid Pro. The aid was held up by the Pentagon and Ukraine at the time of the call didn’t even know it was held up.
2. Leader never went on TV and said those things before the aid was released. So if that was a prerequisite for funds that blows that argument up.
The facts of the matter just don’t add up. The entire investigation is tainted by Schiff anyway from his lying about talking to the whistleblower to sending staffers to Ukraine to speak with Taylor and other officials months ago.
His opening testimony has been released.
1. Trump sent Mulvaney directly to the Budget Office to hold up everything to Ukraine.
2. They released the aid when they saw the whistleblower complaint and Congress was notified.
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:37 pm to DeathAndTaxes
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“I am withholding any more aid until you address these corruption issues?”
Acuza thats not what he wanted to express cuz it had nothing to do with the communication??
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:39 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Because the dipshit dims have not only been calling for his impeachment and removal from office since the day he was elected (literally), they have crying for his, his wife's, his children's, his minor child's and his grandchildren's imprisonment after his removal.
Literally they have been calling for his death.
Doesn't get much more personal than that.
Need plenty of good legal representation along the way.
Literally they have been calling for his death.
Doesn't get much more personal than that.
Need plenty of good legal representation along the way.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:40 pm to PubeCrab
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It will be interesting to see how long this takes, seems like a new stone is turned over every few days regarding inappropriate conduct by this administration. Trump has openly obstructed the whole process from the get go. He still refuses to admit that Russia interfered with the election, ludicrous.
Are you retarded?? Trump literally declassed the Transcript in 24 hours after this story broke. He did it so fast in fact that it caught the Dems off guard because they didn’t expect it. He’s done multiple interviews on the topic and even held a joint news conference with the Ukrainian President.
Only person obstructing crap is Schiff and the dems
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:40 pm to mmcgrath
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1. Trump sent Mulvaney directly to the Budget Office to hold up everything to Ukraine.
1. You believe this because______________?
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2. They released the aid when they saw the whistleblower complaint and Congress was notified.
2. You believe this is true because_______________?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:41 pm to Dale51
That question is addressed to to folks who have said “It is his job to investigate corruption” and “We withhold aid all the time to get what we want”.
If you don’t fall in those camps, feel free to ignore it.
Additional question: If the aid wasn’t held up for that reason, why was it held up?
If you don’t fall in those camps, feel free to ignore it.
Additional question: If the aid wasn’t held up for that reason, why was it held up?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:42 pm to DeathAndTaxes
I'm not going to believe anything that comes out now anyway.
No transparency= all lies.
No transparency= all lies.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:43 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Hey new guy! Exciting!
fricking alter.
fricking alter.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:43 pm to PhDoogan
Really, you are going to use “they used nasty words” as TRUMP’s reasoning for involving his personal attorney in an issue like this?
That shite is weak dawg.
That shite is weak dawg.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:45 pm to Jbird
Yep, I’m an alter. I make sure to spend my time answering financial planning questions on the Money Board to keep up the ruse.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:46 pm to mmcgrath
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His opening testimony has been released.
1. Trump sent Mulvaney directly to the Budget Office to hold up everything to Ukraine.
2. They released the aid when they saw the whistleblower complaint and Congress was notified.
1. IDGAF- the United States of America engages in quid pro quos and arm twisting in foreign policy all the time. Hell we will go kill your people if you don't bend to our will.
And we accept assistance from time to time too.
Guess that George Washington should have been the first fricker to have been impeached for coming to some kind of a QPQ with the French.
2. The IC alleged "WB" did not follow the statute and broke the law by colluding with Schiff's staffers. Congress never should have been notified and this should have remained inside the Intelligence Committee with proper notice to both the Chair and Ranking Member.
Schiff broke the law and should be expelled from congress.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:47 pm to DeathAndTaxes
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I would have to see evidence that the testimony of individuals saying that they we told by Trump or Giuliani that Trump wanted to see investigations started on Burisma and election interference before he released foreign aid is fraudulent. And I would want to see evidence on why those individuals chose to fabricate those claims.
Are you saying you need for the defense to to prove a crime didn’t happen?
That’s not how this works.
It makes no sense in light of:
quote:
To support an impeachment claim, I would need to see credible evidence that they President intended to withhold US aid from a friendly foreign country based on his desire investigations into political opponents, driven by personal motives
The above would be my answer, but it would have to be proven that he was doing it to damage Biden for today, not for getting away with it in the past. I don’t think you can arrive at that point logically. If Democrats would throw Hillary, Menendez, Biden, Durbin, and Corker on the fire for the exact same behavior, I’d buy into it. But they all did it and did not see it as high crimes and misdemeanors.
I’m not saying it’s not a bad look. It is. But it’s no worse than Biden 4-5 years ago.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:48 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Something along the lines of what Bill and Hillary Clinton have repeatedly done.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:49 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Whatever you say. All 79 posts in six days or so.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:51 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Look what they did to certain 3 Star Generals who didn't toe the line, dawg.
And you didn't answer my earlier question:
Are you an attorney or law enforcement?
You don't seem to understand due process.
Wanna see my favorite scene from the Mueller testimony, it's when it all went off the rails for Team Deep State:
And you didn't answer my earlier question:
Are you an attorney or law enforcement?
You don't seem to understand due process.
Wanna see my favorite scene from the Mueller testimony, it's when it all went off the rails for Team Deep State:
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:53 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Would settle for something like lying under oath in a deposition for something as minor as shoplifting some cheap object at the Dollar General. Both a high crime and a misdemeanor all neatly bundled for what the Document provides.
Certainly not for a fallacious statement thrown out for public consumption - whether dealing with here or the Ukraine - with an awareness that it will be given legs by a salivating, enthusiastic, duplicitous press that will pound it into the nation's living rooms 24/7 knowing that if you pound it consistently enough, the target audience will seize upon it, because a significant number of them want to believe it.
So basically, it's just a reinforcement mechanism.
A longstanding primer in basic propaganda technique.
And that's all this ongoing gauntlet has been - for over 3 years now.
And it long ago passed the tiresome stage.
Certainly not for a fallacious statement thrown out for public consumption - whether dealing with here or the Ukraine - with an awareness that it will be given legs by a salivating, enthusiastic, duplicitous press that will pound it into the nation's living rooms 24/7 knowing that if you pound it consistently enough, the target audience will seize upon it, because a significant number of them want to believe it.
So basically, it's just a reinforcement mechanism.
A longstanding primer in basic propaganda technique.
And that's all this ongoing gauntlet has been - for over 3 years now.
And it long ago passed the tiresome stage.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:53 pm to 3nOut
Again, the quote you reference in the beginning is directly responding to a question of what would it take for me to see this as a witch hunt, not to prove the President’s innocence.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:00 pm to DeathAndTaxes
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Why involve your personal attorney?
Because as soon as the DOJ got involved, the left started screaming that Trump was using Barr as his personal attorney
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:01 pm to DeathAndTaxes
Nothing. frick all the politicians on both sides. I want dc burned to ground.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:02 pm to DeathAndTaxes
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Again, the quote you reference in the beginning is directly responding to a question of what would it take for me to see this as a witch hunt, not to prove the President’s innocence
If it’s provable that other parties did the exact same thing or worse and nobody batted an eye but they’re full tilt for Trump isn’t that a witch hunt?
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