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re: What would america's literacy rate be if
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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So you are ok with them basically getting a free ride with education
Yes.
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and doing jack shite with it?
With what? The quality of education they generally receive is horrible.
I've never been forced to attend classes in a condemned building. Have you?
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 11:02 pm
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:02 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:thank you for finally admitting the failures of governmental education.
The quality of education they generally receive is horrible.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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thank you for finally admitting the failures of governmental education.
The failure is in the lack of funds. You can't tell me money isn't the issue in a place like, for instance, Baton Rouge, where a few years back kids were going to school in condemned buildings. You can't fix condemned buildings by altering your "culture" or blaming parents or kids - you kinda just gotta pay money to fix them or rebuild them.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:03 pm to SpidermanTUba
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I don't see how its fair to blame children for the educational opportunities provided or not provided to them.
well kids do have choices, too. i blame the parents for sure, because they instill the values/culture in kids. it's a cycle, as they learned it form their parents...and they learned it form their parents, etc
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Does the adult in your fricked world bear any responsibility for the education of the child or is it all on the child's head?
do you mean parents or teachers?
parents? frick yes, 100% of the time
teachers? i'll defend teachers and say the vast majority are, at worst, capable. they'd have no problems teaching able/willing students in a docile system. some are POS babysitting and leeching checks, but they're the minority
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:04 pm to SpidermanTUba
All we need is money, fricking brilliant. 
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:04 pm to SpidermanTUba
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And you'd have been better off if there had been no public school and instead you worked in a coal mine?
because there is nothing inbetween
the options are (1) public schooling or (2) coal mine
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:05 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:America spends more on education for each children than EVERY SINGLE oecd country.
SpidermanTUba
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Clearly with this knothead.
the options are (1) public schooling or (2) coal mine
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:05 pm to SpidermanTUba
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The failure is in the lack of funds
(catch breath)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
It's painfully obvious your experience with at risk kids is based on some blog you've read on the Daily Kos
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:05 pm to Jbird
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All we need is money, fricking brilliant.
always remember, when government programs fail, it isn't that they're just bad policy, it's either (1) they weren't funded well enough or (2) they weren't implemented just right
hell that's the defense of Head Start, when it has been proven that Head Start doesn't work and is just sucking up money
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:06 pm to SpidermanTUba
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The failure is in the lack of funds. You can't tell me money isn't the issue in a place like, for instance, Baton Rouge, where a few years back kids were going to school in condemned buildings. You can't fix condemned buildings by altering your "culture" or blaming parents or kids - you kinda just gotta pay money to fix them or rebuild them.
you have to ask yourself what the administration is doing. it's either wasting/stealing funds or being forced to divert funds elsewhere
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well kids do have choices, too
Oh yes, they can all just get jobs and put themselves though private school.
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i blame the parents for sure, because they instill the values/culture in kids.
Right - the parents of poor kids don't want their children to get educated. That's what's going on. How convenient for the taxpayers.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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America spends more on education for each children than EVERY SINGLE oecd country.
i am curious how other countries spend less on education and aren't populated with random coal mines everywehre
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yep.
always remember, when government programs fail, it isn't that they're just bad policy, it's either (1) they weren't funded well enough or (2) they weren't implemented just right
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you have to ask yourself what the administration is doing. it's either wasting/stealing funds or being forced to divert funds elsewhere
Because buildings don't decay naturally, eventually needing repair or anything - that only happens when school administrations waste money.
Got it.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:08 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Right - the parents of poor kids don't want their children to get educated
Some do, some don't. You seem to think all poor people are equal.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Their version of a fricked up EPA put them out of business.
random coal mines everywehre
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:08 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Right - the parents of poor kids don't want their children to get educated.
do you know what a "crazy check" is? this doesn't apply to every situation, but parents lose crazy checks if their kids do well
let me ask you a question about a related topic: do you think the parents of poor children, who in the vast majority of cases are single-parent households and have faced those struggles, want their kids to be single parents?
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:09 pm to SpidermanTUba
The reason why kids stopped working in coal mines is because their parents advanced enough economically to not need their kids to work.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:14 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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thank you for finally admitting the failures of governmental education.
I don't know, I think it was pretty instrumental in building this country into the economic, innovative, and creative leader that it is. For every "failure" there are surely successes, and I count my family as one of them. I hate to think of the quality of education my grandparents would have been able to afford for my parents.
What would a totally free market education system do to serve people who can't even afford their own food?
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