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re: What would america's literacy rate be if
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I did?
you admitted that schooling is why literacy rates are 100%
quote:Where?
and you guys have also admitted that free market education would lead to a decrease in students.
quote:Only if people are too fricking stupid to fix a problem on their own, so yeah I guess Obama voters would in fact be illiterate.
It logically follows that there would be a decrease in literacy rates.
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:31 pm to Jbird
quote:Yes, you said the reason why parents can teach their children to read and write is because they went to school.
did
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:No I believe meant they know how to read, they can teach their children. My grandmother learned from he mother etc....link to where I said everyone learned in public school?
Yes, you said the reason why parents can teach their children to read and write is because they went to school.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:36 pm to Jbird
quote:but somewhere along the way, an ancestor learned to read and write at school, and that started the process
My grandmother learned from he mother
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:bullshite.
an ancestor learned to read and write at school, and that started the process
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:45 pm to Jbird
are you kidding me? Where did it start then?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Which came first the bloated public ineptness known and education or the student?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:54 pm to Jbird
sharecroppers in the south were functionally illiterate until the state got involved.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well we had one room school houses up here in the frozen north that were pretty good.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:57 pm to Jbird
that were run by the state
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
that were run by the state
Not
in
the
beginging.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:59 pm to Jbird
Bull
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You don't know what you are talking about but hey go with it.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Without public schools, our at least vouchers for private schools, a lot of poor and working class folks would have a tough time sending their kids to school. Those cheaper schools that did exist would have shitty resources. It's never going to happen. It's libertarian dreamland stuff.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:18 pm to Zed
quote:
working class folks would have a tough time sending their kids to school. Those cheaper schools that did exist would have shitty resources. It's never going to happen
actually I disagree...employees would demand higher wages to cover the costs of education.
when people have necessities taken care of for them , they do not force the issue....people will work for $12/hour if they can get a rental for $500 and only have to worry about food & electricity...but if they'd have to pay $1k/month for their kid, then people wouldn't work for $2k/month
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:23 pm to Iona Fan Man
quote:Where would this power to demand higher wages come from for low skilled replaceable workers? I've seen this argued in regard to welfare and food stamps to, and I just don't see it. It might work if you're a skilled worker with some bargaining power.
actually I disagree...employees would demand higher wages to cover the costs of education.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:28 pm to Zed
quote:unicorn wisdom.
Where would this power to demand higher wages come
The fact of the matter is that the free market would be an absolute DISASTER at providing poor fricks with education.
This is the sole reason I am not a libertarian. Education determines everyone's life in this world. It needs to be guaranteed.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I think you could do it with vouchers, but that would obviously still be public funding. Don't know how much of a difference it would make though. Public funding of education seems to have pretty broad support outside of hardcore libertarians.
The fact of the matter is that the free market would be an absolute DISASTER at providing poor fricks with education.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Like a right!
It needs to be guaranteed.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Whose logic?
you guys have also admitted that free market education would lead to a decrease in students. It logically follows that there would be a decrease in literacy rates.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 9:14 pm
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