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re: What Trump has done with violent crime in 1 year is remarkable

Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:22 pm to
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A few months ago you were arguing with everyone that crime wasnt up at all.

No. I argued crime was decreasing, and nothing has changed. Crime continues to fall.

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Now you are arguing with everyone that its down, but not because of Trump.


Nope. Never said or implied that. Trump has no place in this, just as Biden had no place.

That's SFPDS in full display.

This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 4:25 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10650 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:25 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


You are a piece of shite.
It went down. Just because the Biden is not proof that the Trump admin lies.

You are too chickenshit to call yourself a democrat hack.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:25 pm to
You need to make T-shirts “SFPDS”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:26 pm to
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It went down. Just because the Biden is not proof that the Trump admin lies.

Holy shite

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You are too chickenshit to call yourself a democrat hack.

And you're not intelligent enough to understand a clear reference to hypocrisy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:27 pm to
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A few months ago you were arguing with everyone that crime wasnt up at all.


Except for 2020, it has been dropping for years.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28108 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:31 pm to
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How could those words be an effective policy if they came both before and after the spike?


People had to physically see it get bad.

Trump pushed for a wall in 2016. Why are more people for strict deportations now on 2025? Some people had to leave their hand on the stove for 10 seconds to finally get it.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28108 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:33 pm to
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If the rise were caused by policy, you’d expect the numbers to stay elevated as long as the policy stays in place.


Why are you ruling out this case?

Is defend the police still something many counties are pushing or have they reversed course on that finally?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:34 pm to
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Is defend the police still something many counties are pushing or have they reversed course on that finally?

Again, I already covered this in detail. Has frick all to do with federal policy.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38338 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:39 pm to
I’m not ruling out policy at all. You said the spike suggests COVID, then immediately called that suggestion an “assumption.” But those aren’t the same thing.

When the data shows a sharp rise during a global shutdown and then a return toward baseline afterward, that pattern naturally suggests a temporary shock. That’s a data-driven inference, not a blind assumption.

It’s like saying “my plane probably won’t crash.” Yes, technically it’s an assumption, but it’s one grounded in overwhelming data, so we treat it as a reasonable conclusion.

So the point wasn’t “policy can’t be the cause.” The point was that you’re labeling a data-based inference as if it’s just a guess.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299430 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Why are more people for strict deportations now on 2025?


Probably because of Biden's retarded refugee policy post Covid.

Most Americans cant tell the difference between refugee and illegal.

Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27577 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:42 pm to
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Facts are not a "dem narrative"
Agreed.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63028 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:42 pm to
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If the majority of posters on this board are intellectually consistent, they will claim these are made up/fake numbers and the Trump admin is cooking the books.

There are TONS of receipts about this from just last year when that was the explanation for crime falling under Biden.



Basic logic fail
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:43 pm to
I did have to ETA on that one
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Basic logic fail


...explain.
Posted by MSCGA
Ascension
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:45 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Per usual, you are getting bodied in here. You are a terrible poster.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
6070 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:45 pm to
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My brother, you are making the case I made last year.


You lose your initial argument based on facts he provided so you agree with his initial argument based on something you said last year.

Never change SFP
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:46 pm to
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Per usual, you are getting bodied in here

Is English your 2nd language?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:47 pm to
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You lose your initial argument based on facts he provided


What?

quote:

so you agree with his initial argument based on something you said last year.

Did you miss where I linked his own thread from earlier this year?

Where I make the literal same arguments and he's pulling a 180 with the data?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28108 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:49 pm to
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Again, I already covered this in detail. Has frick all to do with federal policy.


Why are you switching from what Trump is speaking on to Federal Policy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Why are you switching from what Trump is speaking on to Federal Policy?

You switched, from what Trump said to what people experienced.

So I let the digression die since you compassionately killed it, and responded elsewhere.
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