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What specifically did Flynn lie about?

Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted by IllegalPete
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:12 pm
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, just the "57 indictments, 33 convictions, 24 days in FEDERAL frick YOU IN THE arse PRISON, 6 FISA warrants, etc"

Has it been released what he specifically lied about?

Was it something minor like a date or time, or something major like anything actually related election stealing?


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73593 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:15 pm to
He lied about not lying basically
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:17 pm to
FBI says he didn't lie.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:19 pm to
Perjury trap

They were going to get him on a lie no matter what
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:23 pm to
He lied in two separate interviews, the first about conversations he'd had with the Russian ambassador about Obama administration sanctions. The second was lies about his undisclosed foreign agent work for Turkey.

Flynn Sentencing Memo
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

FBI says he didn't lie.


They said he didn't show physical signs of deception (i.e. he seemed to be telling the truth by outward appearances but they realized he was lying by checking what he said against the records of the calls themselves).
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:31 pm to
Lying, said he did not lie. Everyone lies.....in bed.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Everyone lies.....in bed.


Though it’s harder for men to do so.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4741 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

He lied about not lying basically



This
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:38 pm to
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the first about conversations he'd had with the Russian ambassador about Obama administration sanctions.


So, time and date? Or something substantial?

quote:

The second was lies about his undisclosed foreign agent work for Turkey.


The standard didn't file FARA paperwork in a timely manner = lie of omission, or something more serious?

(Your link does not answer either of those questions, it just repeats the general statement of "he lied")
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 5:40 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

They said he didn't show physical signs of deception (i.e. he seemed to be telling the truth by outward appearances but they realized he was lying by checking what he said against the records of the calls themselves).



See, how this works Tiger is that the FBI as an investigative body makes suggestions based on the information that they have.

That suggestion was that Flynn DIDN'T lie.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39464 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:01 pm to
I think the crux of it was, the FBI didn’t believe he was being deceptive. Confusion, forgetting, context, etc...
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131377 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:58 pm to
Why is it when the people misstate the truth to the FBI, it's a "lie"

But if an FBI official misstates the truth to the people, it's "lack of candor"?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28347 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:06 pm to
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the records of the calls themselves).

How did they have that?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:17 pm to
Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.We don’t know the exact details but Flynn plead guilty?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:20 pm to
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I think the crux of it was, the FBI didn’t believe he was being deceptive. Confusion, forgetting, context, etc


It’s interesting because supposedly the FBI already had the tapes on Flynn? They write in the memo he didn’t appear to lie? It’s rather confusing.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 8:20 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:58 pm to
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Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.We don’t know the exact details but Flynn plead guilty?


Obama issues sanctions on Russia on December 28th 2016. The next day Kislyak called Flynn while Flynn was on vacation in Costa Rica. The call was taped. The FBI, having the transcript of the call, interviews Flynn about the call. Why do they need to interview him about a call they have already heard? So they can hopefully charge him with lying.

They ask if they discussed sanctions. Flynn says he doesn’t believe so. The two agents at the time say they do not believe he was being dishonest. 7 months later they change the 302 and charge Flynn with lying. It’s all a big fricking joke
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:00 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:04 pm to
Said he didn’t remember some particulars about his conversation with the Russian ambassador. FBI initially said he was truthful then changed their minds 7 months later and said he lied about not remembering.

Flynn’s plead guilty because he couldn’t afford to defend himself and he knew the penalties wouldn’t be anything.

Remember for Democrats the process is the punishment not the sentence.

Mueller has bankrupt Flynn.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16226 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:26 pm to
Fbi probably asked him what he was doing between 6pm and 7pm, 20 years ago. He probably said he doesn't remember,probably watching tv. .. and then the fbi brought out a receipt for the timeframe that shows he was shopping at a piggly wiggly. Then the fbi said.."gotcha"
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39464 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:29 pm to
They unmasked him in the process. A not so little detail that often gets forgotten.
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