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re: What policies do you point to when arguing for or against Trump?

Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:43 am to
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
4294 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:43 am to
You asking for facts and logical answers when the argument you are stepping into is based on emotions and illogical things
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:01 am to
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Taxes


Can you expound? Because corporate tax cuts are one of the first things brought up as to one thing he’s done wrong and that is slowly running the economy into the ground (looks good now, but not sustainable). I’ve had a liberal friend of mine send me numerous articles (from Forbes, Money, Freakanomics, etc) discussing those cuts and why they are bad for the long-term.

Also, tariffs. They seem to be roundly criticized by financial pundits.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53787 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:12 am to
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What policies do you point to when arguing for or against Trump? by LSU


Borders
America first
Less regulations
Tough on trade
Trust the American people
Lowered taxes but I am still mad about my tax bill from 2019


Howard freaking Stern just signed a contract with XM that will pay him 120 million in 12 months... 10 million a month!

I don't understand but it makes me feel like an utter failure in life...


Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2462 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:43 am to
Inherent Value of the man.

Donald Trump made his fortune through industry.

Joe Biden made himself worth over $100MM with only a congressman & VP salaries.

This is also why I would much rather see Joe Biden's tax returns.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 6:44 am
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:51 am to
I Support Trump because:
Jobs, unemployment numbers, taxes, Made in America, welfare cuts, judges, protecting 2A, getting out of Paris Climate Accord, draining the swamp, cutting regulations, getting NATO partners to pay, CHYNA, Right to Try, ending Obamacare, THE WALL,
To name just a few.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56535 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:55 am to
Criminal justice reform

War on terror. Name the latest attack

Troops home. 97 percent approval of va services

Exec order for protection of prerxusting

Tax cuts

Trade agreements

NATO

Not in office 47 damn years

...
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68391 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:56 am to
quote:

Can you expound? Because corporate tax cuts are one of the first things brought up as to one thing he’s done wrong and that is slowly running the economy into the ground (looks good now, but not sustainable).


Corporations don't pay taxes. They pass them on to their customers.

If you hit US companies with taxes and roll back the tariffs we tilt right back to favoring foreign goods and losing US manufacturing.

Capping the state tax deduction was important so that well run states don't subsidize poorly run states.

Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:59 am to
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Corporations don't pay taxes. They pass them on to their customers.


Plus, when Trump cut corporate taxes it allowed for more jobs and raises. There are tons of small business owners that specifically cited this as the reason they were having record years.

They of course we're hit the hardest with Lockdowns and riots. It's funny how it worked out perfectly for Dems in an election year!!!
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Corporations don't pay taxes. They pass them on to their customers.

If you hit US companies with taxes and roll back the tariffs we tilt right back to favoring foreign goods and losing US manufacturing.


Good answer.

So, I pretty much know the answer, I guess, but why do these financial gurus all want to sell these as bad?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:20 am to
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when Trump cut corporate taxes it allowed for more jobs and raises.


Yeah, I think what the other side is trying to sell is that while the cuts may ALLOW for this, the corporations are largely NOT doing anything besides putting the extra money back in the pockets of their CEOs. I think the disconnect exists because we assume these positive things will happen, but we hear quite often about the obscene profits that are taken by corporate administrations with nothing handed down to the average worker and no change in pricing for the consumer.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67221 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:25 am to
For:
Taxes, judges, foreign policy, admin law, h1b visa reform

Against:
Gun rights, lgbt rights, tariffs, cuba, Corona lockdown guidelines, spending, healthcare
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9357 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:37 am to
Tariffs that hurt american agriculture and oil&gas issues.
Alienating our allies undoing 50 years of post ww2 policy
Slavish fascination with dictators.
Subverting the Justice Dept to be his own personal lawyer.
Creating a crisis on the border, using kids as political tools.
Passing a tax deduction with no way to pay for it.
Tanking the economy with his lack of coherent Covid response
Sending in the feds to Portland to restart the protests to fit his law and order strategy.
Bringing back the federal death penalty for the same reason.
All of the selfish brutish behavior.
Incessant lying.
Refusal to call out putin on the bounties
Hiding tax returns
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73490 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:38 am to
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14047 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Hiding tax returns


What do his tax returns have to do with anything?
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5360 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:40 am to
Virtually every argument against Trump that I hear is about muh feels. He's a jerk, he's unpresidential, he's racist. When you ask for details, you get crickets.

The only arguments that you get details on are easy enough to turn around on those idiots. Stuff like covid where Trump has cost us 2Billion lives or whatever they claim yet they're voting for a candidate and party that was actively encouraging Asian travel while things were ramping up.They also argue the rioting and looting is Trump's America. . . It's insane they ignore the fact that the worst of the worst human beings are in liberal stronghold towns.
Posted by TigerWoodlands
The Woodlands
Member since Dec 2008
867 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:47 am to
Trump positives

Supreme Court
Taxes (trusts the people, not govt.)
Economy
2nd Amendment
Anti-DC Swamp
Border control
Minimize giveaways
Trusts wisdom of Flyover country
Middle East peace initiatives


Dem Negatives (things Trump fights against)

Socialism
Green New Deal
Cradle to grave entitlements
Control by the Swamp (DC knows best)
Anti-science (lockdowns, partial birth abortions)
Weaponized Fed Agencies (FBI, IRS)
Identity Politics
Tech Oligarchs and Censorship
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Which policies have won you over (or were deal breakers) in your decision regarding the president?




Economy!!!
Neutered Obamacare and removed the individual mandate.
Made us energy independent.
Built the wall.
Removed us from foreign wars we had no business sticking our nose into.
And, again, its the economy, stupid!
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8349 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:45 am to
Well said.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10325 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:45 am to
Taxes, jobs, not shutting down the country/economy.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33977 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:23 am to
Robby Starbuck has a long running list on Twitter. And it is rather long. Not sure if he has it pinned but if I get a chance I'll post it here.
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