re: What kneelers and confederate flag waivers have in common...

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I think you are drawing a very faint distinction without a purpose here.

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In my defense, I never ever start one of these discussions. I don't even respond to the first one or two retarded insults from someone 'signaling his virtue' by calling honorable men from 150 years ago 'traitors' and 'dishonorable.'

I do rise to the continued blather when it presents itself.

I don't even respond to assertions that the Civil War was fought because of slavery, because of course that was the underlying cause for the secession that led to the war.

Slavery was evil - just as partial birth abortions are evil. But both evils were legal in the times they were prevalent.

And if the cause of the Union was to 'make war on the south to free the slaves' there would not have been 1000 volunteers from the North, and there would have been mass revolt if men were conscripted to fight such a war. Likewise, if the South had declared we are 'going to war to keep our slaves,' they would not have had any more volunteers than the North would have had to abolish it.

Men went to war on one side to preserve the Union, and on the other side to defend their state. It is no more complicated than that at the level of the fighting man. The machinations of the political leaders at the top are not part of my defense.

So the question of "honor" based on whether or not someone was willing to risk their lives to either 'free the slaves' or to 'maintain slavery' is totally moot. People in the 21st century are laughable with their attempts to denigrate the common man in the armies of either side.

And I repeat - nobody at the time referred the confederate soldiers as "traitors." Only the 'intellectual' modern SJWs use that terminology in their attempts to deflect from the utterly disastrous mess they have created with their 'create racial division' agenda in order to stay competitive in modern day elections.

So to all = don't start no shite, won't be no shite.



oh - and if all the SJWs might notice - the most patriotic and willing to fight for present day America, after all their ancestors slaves were taken from them, reside in the south. We in the south LOVE AMERICA.