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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:17 pm to Stingray
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:17 pm to Stingray
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What makes Fascism, Fascism?
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:17 pm to Stingray
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What makes Fascism, Fascism?
Unable/unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion. To the point to where you cannot even voice your opinion.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:20 pm to Kraut Dawg
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Economically, it's where private companies provide a good or service while gov't controls its production & consumption.
In other words, Obamacare.
Or the military industrial complex to be fair.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:21 pm to DavidTheGnome
So, in your opinion, Fascism is most similar to Libertarianism?
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:22 pm to Stingray
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:27 pm to Stingray
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What makes Fascism, Fascism?
Their fabulous uniforms and boots!
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:28 pm to Stingray
No not really. Fascism is its own thing. Here’s another way to look at it (there are many)
Or
Or
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:28 pm to Kraut Dawg
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Economically, it's where private companies provide a good or service while gov't controls its production & consumption.
In other words, Obamacare.
I would say the military is more apropos. Private contractors controlled exclusively by the state.
With Obamacare, there is a still a private market that co-exists. Most Americans aren't on obamacare
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:28 pm to Stingray
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a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
What is Fascism
Amazing how this board ask for links, yet when people like TigerDoc give you great information the majority on PT hate it.
The truth is that Fascism can be an extreme of both Left and Right wing governments. It is accurate to say that both sides of the spectrum have elements of what could create a Fascist state. The turning point is when the worst of both parties get their way and the people, in general, lose total control of their government (voting) and no means to defend their liberty (no firearms/ state selected law enforcement)
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:29 pm to Stingray
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What makes Fascism, Fascism?
If it is something leftists don't like, they call it fascism,
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
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No not really. Fascism is its own thing.
So, in regards to fascism, you think that spectrum you showed me is shite?
And don't you think that spectrum would make more sense if anarchy was at far right instead of fascism?
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:33 pm to cahoots
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:34 pm to cajuncarguy
Corporations and free enterprise can be allowed. Difference is the government exerts control instead of ownership. Nazis would tell them to produce what they required and didn't care what they produced after that.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:35 pm to Stingray
No, anarchy would be the lack of governance all together so wouldn’t appear on the spectrum at the top.
Those are representations trying to graph abstract ideas. I don’t think they are shite nor do I think there’s a one size fits all model for it either.
Those are representations trying to graph abstract ideas. I don’t think they are shite nor do I think there’s a one size fits all model for it either.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:35 pm to TigerDoc
Nice, looks like we are at 12/14, nothing to worry about I’m sure
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:38 pm to DavidTheGnome
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No, anarchy would be the lack of governance all together so wouldn’t appear on the spectrum at the top.
Well.
I think you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:42 pm to DavidTheGnome
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3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats
muh Russians
Posted on 4/7/18 at 8:42 pm to DavidTheGnome
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This is one way to look at it. To me the extremes loop around to blend together.
I agree. I think of Communism and Fascism as different routes to get to real end goal, totalitarianism.
If you control the military and all other forms of enforcement, you control everything by force.
If you control the social media, create a dogmatic groupthink that is very popular, and use that as a means to create any laws, you control by mental oppression.
Both sides seek the end game of controlling the means of production through different proxies, capitalism or socialism.
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